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The spartan slaves, the helots, were regularly murdered by a secret police and rite of passage for young spartan men. Did any helot fight back and kill their attacker? (self.AskHistorians)
submitted 10h ago by SlayerofSnails
Title. I know the helots were treated like trash to the point that any man who looked to brave or strong or attractive was killed, and the women were raped so often the bastards were an established class.

But did any helot find themselves about to be shanked and kill their attacker? What would happen? Death? Cover up?
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Llyngeir 19 points 5h ago
You're right that the sources claim that the Helots were treated badly, and they even say that Helots were the worst treated of all slaves in ancient Greece. However, the sources rarely tell us exactly how the Helots were mistreated. When we do get a glimpse, the only element of the Helots' treatment that stands out is their alleged systematic murder by an established group dedicated solely to that goal - the Krypteia. Yet, our evidence for the Krypteia is shaky at best, with sources contradicting one another on the purpose of the institution. Moreover, if we compare the Spartans' treatment of the Helots with the Athenians' treatment of their slaves, it appears that, in some ways, the Helots were not really treated as badly as a whole. Indeed, slaves in Athens were regularly beaten, raped (whether by their masters or as unwilling prostitutes), tortured, and killed. On this I would recommend Forsdyke's *Slaves and Slavery in Ancient Greece*, just don't pay attention to what she says about Helots and Cretan slavery, Forsdyke significantly underrepresents contemporary scholarship in that regard.

This is not to say that Helots were well treated, that is hardly the case. Rather, the peculiar system of Spartan citizenship meant that individual masters had to be in Sparta nearly all the time, and as a result, they could not closely oversee their farms and their Helots in Messenia as their Athenian counterparts could, likely relying on Helot or perioikic overseers to manage farms in their absence. However, for Helots in Laconia, i.e., east of the Taygetos mountains, they were much closer to their masters, and as a result their masters likely exerted greater control over the Helots, with all that entailed.

This is not to say that Helots did not fight back because they were, in some cases, relatively well treated. The conditions that meant that they were relatively autonomous meant that they were also likely to revolt. Such was the case in the mid-fifth century BC, when a group of Helots and *perioikoi* revolted against Spartan control after an earthquake destroyed much of the city of Sparta. Helots would continue to flee Spartan control throughout much of the Peloponnesian War after the Athenians established two bases from which they encouraged such flight. Unfortunately, we do not know whether individual Helots ever fought back against their masters or the Krypteia outside of the above revolt, we simply do not have the sources necessary for that. Moreover, we do not know what happened in individual cases of the Krypteia's alleged Helot hunting because, as always we do not have the evidence.
raitaisrandom 2 points 1h ago
I'm not contradicting most of this, because I am not that well read on the subject... but it seems odd to excoriate Athens on the subject of sexual violence compared to Sparta.

We know from Xenophon that an entire social class in Spartan society (he calls them "*nothoi*" which means bastards -- but generally they were called the *mothakes*) existed because of Spartiate rape of Helot women.
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