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Where does helium "go" once it leaves the atmosphere of a planet or a star? (self.askscience)
submitted 18h ago by BigZaddy64
I just learned that helium is constantly escaping from the Earth atmosphere because it’s so light compared to the other gas. I imagine its the same for the helium that is produced by the Sun and other stars?

But once it’s in outer space, what happens to all this helium? Does it pile up somewhere since it can’t just evaporate?
wildfire393 117 points 14h ago
The first thing to realize about space is that it's a LOT of nothing. Beyond comprehension. Stuff that escapes the atmosphere/gravity well gets dispersed across the endless void until it is nigh-undetectable. Every atom that makes up our entire solar system could be fissioned down to hydrogen and helium and dispersed into space and statistically nothing would change.
Vigge777 21 points 14h ago
It has a few ways that it can "go" when it reaches up high enough in the atmosphere. It's either just hanging around the planets upper atmosphere as really low density gas, or it's swept away by the solar wind out into space until it's caught by some other gravity well.
(Someone else might know wether solar wind is strong enough to push it out of the solar system, but I reckon most of it gets pulled in by the sun)
MedianNerd 25 points 11h ago
NASA’s estimate is that the average density of the universe is 1 proton per 4 cubic meters.
UltraFireFX 10 points 9h ago
which is so crazy when you think about planets and stars and black holes. With such high proton density. But the amount of nothingness is so vast that the average is that low.
MedianNerd 4 points 9h ago
Right. That kind of density is absurd. If we replaced the earth and everything on it with that density, we wouldn’t even need a whole gram of protons.
Dyolf_Knip 10 points 8h ago
I did some math a while back.

If you took every last bit of stuff that we can see, *everything* out to 90 billion light years away, every star, planet, black hole, comet, moon, and wisp of space dust, and gathered it all up in one place at the density of liquid water, it would occupy a cube just a couple light years on a side. Small enough that you could lose it in the sofa cushions of a medium sized galaxy.

That's how much stuff there is, and it's spread across a volume of 10 million trillion trillion cubic light years.
bluewales73 12 points 8h ago
>whether solar wind is strong enough to push it out of the solar system

The sun is strong enough push it out of the solar system, but no further. The definition of the edge of the solar system (one of them anyway) is where the pressure from solar wind matches the pressure from the interstellar gas. This boundary is called the heliopause. This is where gas from the sun mixes with gas from the empty space between stars in our galaxy.
Zethrax 14 points 13h ago
The helium atoms are in orbit around the sun, so pulling them in would require energy to counter their orbits. Things don't just fall into the sun once they are no longer orbiting the Earth.
Randvek 4 points 11h ago
It’s important to remember that space is very, very empty, but it isn’t completely empty. Helium in space follows the same rules of everything else; it’s at the whims of all the forces acting on it, particularly gravity and solar winds.

Helium will escape the atmosphere and then be stuck, since it can’t escape Earth’s gravity. But then it will get pushed by solar winds away from Earth. Helium will follow solar winds around, ultimately reaching the edge of our solar system, though it may take a circuitous route to get there.
toochaos 9 points 11h ago
Helium is pushed up through the atmosphere by the atmosphere, So it just float on top as it's still attracted to earth. In order for it to leave some force would have to be applied to counteract earth's gravity, this can come in the form of solar radiation if the helium becomes ionized or from the atmosphere of the sun.
rootofallworlds 1 points 3h ago
How fast each volatile element escapes from a celestial body depends on the escape velocity of the body and the temperature in the upper atmosphere. Stars and gas giants have much higher escape velocities than Earth so typically retain their hydrogen and helium, although in some cases even these massive objects can undergo significant mass loss.

But as for where the helium (and hydrogen) that escapes goes: Into the interplanetary medium, and potentially into the interstellar medium after that. From the Sun, the solar wind carries off about a million tonnes of hydrogen and helium plasma every second, which is nothing compared to the overall mass of the Sun; since formation, only a fraction of a percent of its mass has been lost this way. The solar wind moves outwards, interacting with other gas and dust particles in the interplanetary medium, and eventually merges into the interstellar medium at the heliopause about 100 AU out.
pewpewbrrrrrrt 1 points 11h ago
Nobody is mentioning that helium doesn't float away out of the sun. Helium floats because the other gasses in our atmosphere are heavier than it, so it floats on top like marshmallows in cocoa to get sucked into space. A key factor here is that the sun is mostly hydrogen so helium being twice as heavy sinks to the middle instead of floating on top.
OlympusMons94 3 points 6h ago
The entire Sun contains a significant percentage of helium, and at least the outer ~200,000 km of the Sun's interior is convective and therefore compositionally well mixed. The Sun is also spewing out tens of trillions of tonnes of material every year (~1% the mass of Earth's atmopshere) as solar wind. Most of that is protons (hydrogen nucleii), but several percent is alpha particles (helium nuclei/ions). The solar wind (and gas particles, no longer bound to their planet, that get entraned into it) travels outward through the heliosphere, and can eventually leave the solar system.
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