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What difficulties do you face doing online courses in college? (self.Blind)
submitted 8y ago by cynicalfly
Are any technologies or accommodations particularly helpful to you? My university is working on trying to make sure their online courses are as accessible to all people as possible and I'm in charge of the initial write up! Tell me what torments you and what saves you! And what's the best way for a teacher to interact with you online?
GringodelRio 1 points
I'm the sighted spouse to blind wife who is taking her masters online. Overall, it's more challenging than on campus. Her biggest issue though is professors and staff not really getting 'it'. One professor wanted to be schnazzy and use a third-party video site to record their discussions. For sighted folks it was awesome. Fer her, completely inaccessible. I eventually had to help her with it because he was being a d-bag about it and finally caved after 3 videos into letting her do text responses.

Blackboard is mostly accessible, some bits and pieces that she runs into trouble with, but by far the biggest issue in her program is the people. Bonus: It's a teacher of the visually impaired program. Now ain't that a kick in the pants.
cynicalfly [OP] 1 points
Could you elaborate on how he was using the third party video site and why it didn't work for her? Were people using visual cues that were essential to understanding the material?

Any other issues? It would be awesome to hear from her.
GringodelRio 1 points
The site was called Visual Voicethread, so imagine Reddit only instead of typing your words, you use a flash based application to record yourself with your webcam. Wonderful idea, really poor execution. It's something I as a sighted person wish I had in some of my online courses at another school where the discussion boards were your standard format, but really the video portion of the site was completely inaccessible with JAWS, Apple Voiceover, NVDA... flash based, so nothing was machine readable. They had a universal site that was text based and you could play videos, but not record. You could post text, but not videos. You couldn't even subscribe to the thread. So I had to log in for her, subscribe to her thread, log out, and let her login with the universal access site and view videos and post text comments, and that was after having a nice long conversation with Mr. I-Have-A-PHD that I have a long slew of tech certifications and a lawyer. So it didn't have much with the other students, they just talked, awkwardly into their webcams. The site was a big mess.

She occasionally has some issues finding textbooks, but if she gets her orders in on time the Disability Services folks will pick up her books, destroy them (IMHO) and send her OCR renderings of everything. Every thing else is related to the people, faculty and advisers, in the program how hey are either stupid, illiterate, or really have an issue with a blind teacher of the visually impaired so don't give a hoot. But I think that has more to do with the lack of face-to-face communication, as communicating over text is a real nightmare. I don't think humans were ever really supposed to communicate in writing more than token letters, accounting, and various educational texts. Most person-to-person text communication sucks.
Nighthawk321 1 points
I'm not taking any online classes, but I would guess classes that involve pictues would be dificult. Since the programs we use can't read pictures. But as far as classes that involve reading and writing, it would be a lot easier than taking a class at a school. Reason why i say this is because many blind people can read text extraordinarily fast because they have to listen to a voice that reads the text on the screen. Over a while, we become use to it. I believe i can listen/read text a little faster than twice the average person.
cynicalfly [OP] 1 points
I believe that the programs can read "alt text" for pictures and graphs which I am pushing on the professors and students. I'm still a little unclear on how screen readers read the title versus the description field in the alternate text and allows users to skim pictures.

Do you have any experience with this?

Another commenter mentioned that people and how they format things or accomodate issues are the main problem. Would you agree with this outside of online classes? Maybe at work?

Also I have a question as a sighted person, how do screen readers read question marks and other punctuation?
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