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Question: What to mind when designing web-sites (self.Blind)
submitted 7y ago by ThrowawayWebU
Hello /r/blind,
i'm a German computer science student and right now I'm working on an talk about accessibility for my web usability class.
Your input would be highly valued!
What is annoying you on the most modern websites? What small (or big) changes would make your web experience better? What are your general wishes? Is there generally something a classroom full of futere web-developers and designers, eager to make their web site the best possible experience for everyone, should know?
i'm a German computer science student and right now I'm working on an talk about accessibility for my web usability class.
Your input would be highly valued!
What is annoying you on the most modern websites? What small (or big) changes would make your web experience better? What are your general wishes? Is there generally something a classroom full of futere web-developers and designers, eager to make their web site the best possible experience for everyone, should know?
matt_may 2 points
I can't stand certain sites on my smartphone. The developers lock the text so it can't be enlarged. I just can't read them and have to leave. Not sure why they feel the need to lock the text size.
ThrowawayWebU [OP] 1 points
Noted and will be mentioned.
Also, there is a workaround that should allow you to re-enable text-enlargement: $1. Should also work on android (create a bookmark with the code, use on a site to re-enable the enlargement).
Also, there is a workaround that should allow you to re-enable text-enlargement: $1. Should also work on android (create a bookmark with the code, use on a site to re-enable the enlargement).
matt_may 2 points
The workaround might work for a few sites I use a bunch. But most VIP will never be able to do that data entry by themselves. Also most sites are rarely visited and not worth the effort to add as a bookmark.
ThrowawayWebU [OP] 2 points
It is a bookmarklet - you don't add a bookmark for every page, you add the bookmark once and use it for every page where the problem consists.
Of course, you're right: it isn't really a good solution, but maybe it can help a little bit.
Of course, you're right: it isn't really a good solution, but maybe it can help a little bit.
pxlgirl 2 points
I am a legally blind designer myself, so accessibility is pretty much a default, however I'm focussing on the visuals from a professional point of view. You might want to take a look at my slides from a talk I gave 2 years ago: http://www.designbypxlgirl.com/files/pretty_accessible_presentation.pdf
P. S. I'm fluent in German, if you have any further questions, feel free to PM me. :)
P. S. I'm fluent in German, if you have any further questions, feel free to PM me. :)
ThrowawayWebU [OP] 1 points
Thank you! If questions come up, I'll PM you!
Shall I send you my presentation when I'm done? although it will be pretty basic stuff, maybe you have some use for it?
Also, would you mind if I use some the graphics from your presentation? With proper attribution, of course.
Shall I send you my presentation when I'm done? although it will be pretty basic stuff, maybe you have some use for it?
Also, would you mind if I use some the graphics from your presentation? With proper attribution, of course.
pxlgirl 2 points
Sure, go ahead! :) Let me see the presentation when you're done too.
jtkeith 1 points
As someone who develops from an accessibility-first mindset, I would suggest you start with the POUR Principles (perceivable, operable, understandable, robust). This blog-focused post provides a super easy introduction.
http://blogaccessibility.com/the-pour-principles-the-starting-point-for-creating-accessible-blogs/
If you start with that foundation you'll be on a good path forward.
http://blogaccessibility.com/the-pour-principles-the-starting-point-for-creating-accessible-blogs/
If you start with that foundation you'll be on a good path forward.
ThrowawayWebU [OP] 1 points
Right now my main sources are the chapter on accessibility in Steve Krugs "don't make me think" and the book "Design Accessible Web Sites". Both cover what our professor wants the class to take away after the lecture. I'll see if I can work the POUR Principle in, it seems to be a good reference point to have something to check your site against.
So my bases are somewhat covered, but since the $1 seems to be right now the only point where I can hear from blind people directly. Since that article is almost ten years old, I would like to have some direct input - stories, anecdotes, pet peeves, usually encountered errors and problems and so on.
Still, I'll try to make sure everything from the POUR Principle is covered in my talk. Thank you!
So my bases are somewhat covered, but since the $1 seems to be right now the only point where I can hear from blind people directly. Since that article is almost ten years old, I would like to have some direct input - stories, anecdotes, pet peeves, usually encountered errors and problems and so on.
Still, I'll try to make sure everything from the POUR Principle is covered in my talk. Thank you!
jtkeith 2 points
I'm at an accessibility conference right now, so this is a fairly hot topic for me :) I just left a session talking about WCAG 2.0 experiences and limitations. WCAG is the 'official' web content accessibility guidelines from the W3C. Anyway, in that session we discussed POUR and how all the WCAG guidelines are designed to fit under one of the four pillars. So I think POUR is a very good place to start framing practical accessibility.
It's been a long time since I looked at Steve's book, but the two references you're citing ought to be good as well.
- John
It's been a long time since I looked at Steve's book, but the two references you're citing ought to be good as well.
- John
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