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Full History - 2016 - 01 - 08 - ID#3zzw51
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Just wondering if this application would be useful in practice for the visually impaired. (self.Blind)
submitted by demonachizer
Someone I know made an android app that uses what is called a convolutional neural network to identify objects in the camera then read them out when exceeding a certain confidence and vibrates the phone when it exceeds it even more.

He has a video about it on the kickstarter he made (I understand that isn't super useful in this case) but he explains the application in the video as well. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2114076460/blindtool-v2

Here is an article that was written about it. https://www.fastcodesign.com/3055093/this-amazing-app-sees-objects-for-blind-people
Any suggestions about the tool would be cool too. He has no plans to charge for it also.
romanj35 2 points 7y ago
I am probably the only person in this sub with the following. 1 i-phone 6, a samsung galaxy s 6 which is a phone, an ipad mini 4, and a samsung galaxy tab 4 which is a tablet. I have problems with every one of them.
Some of my apps on both android and apple, they work for android but not for apple. and vice versa. You can't tell me that voice-over is vastly superior when I can't even get the back button to be read aloud to me when I'm in the app store. And, yes, android is much better then it used to be while apple voice-over has slipped dramatically, at least as far as accessability goes.
I, personally, was misled by apple fanatics about how much voice over reads aloud to me. In fact, quite alot of blind apple users flat-out lied to me when it came to apple being greater then android and game access.
No matter how much we want it, there is no one is better then another. Frankly, if I were being honest, I'd recommend android for a new blind user before I would apple. Why??? Cost. Plain and simple. For 400 united states dollars I can get the same tablet as the apple one but at half the cost. Some of the same specs in apple phones at 600 can cost someone 150 for android. but I tell people , if you have the money, then get what you want.
But don't do people the disservice of telling them how wonderful apple is over everything else. Everything has itss ups and downs, and it is going to depend on the person to make that decision for themselves.
Southpaw5000 1 points 7y ago
Why is it that when somebody posts a link to a new app every single comment is a childish argument about which platform is better? I get so sick of this in the blind community. It's great you have strong opinions but if you can't even make your argument without sounding like you're seven years old I'm not gonna waste my time considering it. Just because something works for you does not mean it will work for somebody else and just because you like it doesn't mean you have to be a zealot about defending it and bash the rivals. iOS versus android has absolutely nothing to do with the original post here. If you want to go have that completely pointless argument go create a new thread and take it over there.
fastfinge 1 points 7y ago
This sounds a lot like $1 for IOS. It just released recently, so I haven't yet quite found a use for it. But...it feels like it should be more useful than it is, if that makes any sense? I think it's one of those apps that I don't have a use for right now, just because it's knew. Once I'm used to having the app in my life, and remember I could use it, it could well be something I can't live without in a year or two.
Marconius 1 points 7y ago
This was already posted a few days ago in this sub. It's a real pity that this wasn't made for iOS, as a vast majority of those of us who are blind use iPhones as voiceover is far superior to google talkback in every way.
seeingwithsound 1 points 7y ago
There is a similar app for iOS called Aipoly https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-recognizer/id501088555 Aipoly recognition is currently better than that of BlindTool for daily living situations due to Aipoly's use of the Teradeep neural network. Aipoly indicated today that they should have an Android version in a few months https://twitter.com/Aipoly_/status/685850206949126144
TweetsInCommentsBot 1 points 7y ago
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lbtm 1 points 7y ago
This is really not at all true. Blind Andorid user here... Android has come a long way in recent years.
homeschooled 1 points 7y ago
Just because it's come a long way doesn't mean Apple isn't vastly superior to it.
Marconius 1 points 7y ago
Webaim surveys from last year and years past disagree with you. Android isn't even coming close to voiceover/iOS usage among the blind.
http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey6/
lbtm 1 points 7y ago
Those Webaim surveys exhibit a huge participation bias toward iOS users because of the organizations that distribute the survey to their members and the technologies those organizations historically embraced.
fastfinge 1 points 7y ago
I have an android tablet, and I have to disagree strongly. Even with all of the latest updates, many of Google's official apps have unlabelled buttons, inaccessible controls, and other serious issues. Android is only OK if you're fine being treated as a second-class user, and working around the many access failures. Yes, you can generally work around all of the problems. But that doesn't make Android accessible. It just makes it...usually...sort of usable.
charliemyheart 2 points 7y ago
When I started using google talkback I wanted to chuck my LG cell phone next time I am going the iphone route, so much better.
demonachizer [OP] 1 points 7y ago
Sorry about the repost. I see he actually posted it here and saw this feedback already!
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