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Blind people seeing ? (self.Blind)
submitted by Luckycreeper
Who all not blind people don't have the possibility to see , but some of you might already see my question coming :
Do they see in their dream , and if so , what ? Colours , or just a pitch black void ?
Let me know what you think !
Nandflash 3 points 7y ago
People who were born blind don't see anything in their dreams. Those who weren't born blind do.
Luckycreeper [OP] 0 points 7y ago
But dreaming happens in the brain itself , not making any connection with the eyes.
But dreams are made out of memories , and people who are born blind don't see anything for the rest of their lives , so maybe they just a pitch black screen when dreaming.
Unuhi 2 points 7y ago
If you've always been blind, there is no darkness. Just no seeing.
Just like if someone's always been deaf there's no loudness or concept of silence.

However for those who once saw something the theory goes you are supposed to still be able to see in your dreams afterwards.
Most of my dreams lack sight elements. But they have everything else - including tactile, text in braill, olfactory cues etc.
logicblocks 1 points 7y ago
How do you differentiate between dreams and reality?

As a seeing person I need to "see" my room and the lighting and have a sense of time and how shiny the sun is before realizing that I'm awake. It happens so fast though.

How does a blind person differentiate between sleeping and wakefulness?

Thank you very much.
Unuhi 1 points 7y ago
A lot depends if you've been able to see before.
If you have and then went blind, typically uou can still see in you dreams (but not awake). Or in theory.
In practice: not always so. If you saw before and life went blurry towards blindness, your dreams go blurry. If you learn braille (or fremch or asl or anything similar), surprise... You'll read braille in your dreams while things are blurry , light/dark, no light perception at all etc.
You can't perceive more in dreams than you were able to awake.

My dreams are at best blur. Sometimes very vivid but not even light perception (so worse than dIly life). I've read braille in my dreams, and my nightmares have kncluded crossing big roads, getting lost in buildings, having nightmare bathrooms etc. i've had realistic blind dreams where i felt like i slept in a different bed. Ghe bed felt completely different...
I've read stuff in mh dreams online, with voiceover etc. Usually its easy tl figure when I'm awake, but soemtimes it also means checking what i typed or posted before i fell asleep.
Figuring oit if i'm awake or asleep is mo different than when being sighted. Except if i'm 1) in a new environment and lost or 2) under influence of prescriptio drugs such as in hospitals which are an absolute might are, even if the staff were supposed to know i don't see.
DreamingTheMelody 2 points 7y ago
You have to keep in mind that as true as that might be, we couldn't really tell you for sure. I.E: I was born blind, and I know that my dreams have nothing to do with sight. However, I was born blind. I have never seen before, so I couldn't tell you if you were right, purely for the reason that I have never seen a 'black screen' to compare to. Your idea is probably the best way of thinking of it, but it might not necessarily be the most accurate. Probably the absence of something is a bit more... comparable?

Hope this helps/gives a bit more perspective. :)
Luckycreeper [OP] 2 points 7y ago
Thanks for the information tough , but maybe these " blind dreams " are not just a black screen but filled with sound and toughts.
Like thinking how an object looks , that kind of toughs.
Maybe some additional colours , like thinking of them and finally managing to come up with the idea how a colour looks.
( Sorry for the complicated explanation ;) )
Anyway , thanks for " inspiring " me some more !
DreamingTheMelody 1 points 7y ago
Oh, yes I mean, they have sounds and everything-but-sight associated with them, of course. That's accurate. When I meant black screen, I meant that from a strictly visual perspective.

And yeah, I have formed my own opinion about colors, but it's more in a: green = grass, and blue=skies, sometimes water, and serenity - that kind of thing. It's more like facts in my head, and my dreams are rarely something like: I think this is blue, because colors don't really have a part in that.

I hope that this gave you a bit more info, and you're welcome as well! :)
Nandflash 1 points 7y ago
It's not really even black. It's just nothingness. I'm not sure how to describe it.
Luckycreeper [OP] 1 points 7y ago
Like , a void or something where nothing is visible , but sounds can be heared ?
Nandflash 1 points 7y ago
Yep, that sounds right. No color or light or anything. Just sound.
Hannover92 1 points 7y ago
I have never seen. My dreams have sound, they have smell, they have tactile input,. For example if I dream that I'm on a beach, I might hear the ocean, I might smell the salt water, feel the sand and the sun. I don't see anything just like in real life I don't see anything. Put another way, I experience things in dreams the same way I experience them in real life. The brain doesn't substitute something for the missing visual just like in life how nothing's substituted either. I think that because you can see, you're wondering what that visual stimulation is replaced with and the answer, at least for me, is nothing, just as in real life. Now people who may have had vision at one time may have vision in their dreams but I believe this is formed based on existing visual memory or impressions. I hope this helps.
Luckycreeper [OP] 1 points 7y ago
So , the brain als does " put " things not linked to seeing in your dreams , so its possibility to save things not related to seeing and put them into yours dream actually becomes better because it doesn't need to put in memories you SAW , since you don't see.
But dreams do involve like the additional toughs of like an object looks and also smells.
Thanks for the info !
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