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Help with PDF accessibility (self.Blind)
submitted by qagir
This text was written in /r/indesign but I have a feeling you can help me with my issue.

I'm designing a two page newspaper that is distributed in print and PDF. One of my potential readers is blind and asked for a accessible version. I noticed how I never cared about this and decided to make all my PDFs accessible.

The problem is: the workflow is HARD AS HELL. I found tutorials around the internet using InDesign CS4, CS5, never CC. And they are very confuse.

You have to tag your document in InDesign - problem #1, as ID has a weird way of tagging, where you put a H2 and P inside a Story and it still sees them as separate items.

Then you set your article order - problem #2, as the Articles tab apparently does nothing for Tagged PDFs, just for EPUBs

Then you export a Tagged PDF. No apparent problem.
You open at Acrobat DC and 'make it accessible' using the tools. No problem until now —it's even a nice feature as you can insert alt tags as you test for accessibility.

After that, you must open the reading order tab and... problem #3. Even setting the article order, tags inside stories and all, it STILL reads all out of order. Let's try to solve this.

You can try to drag-drop in the order tab but if you make a single mistake of pointing your mouse OVER one item and not BELOW it, you insert what you are dragging inside it. Let's cmd-z... but there's NO UNDO! You have to close and open the document again and start over.

So, after all that I couldn't export a SINGLE accessible PDF. I'm considering exporting for EPUB from InDesign and selling the EPUB for this costumer (what is far from optimal).

Is there a better workflow for this or am I doomed with this tiresome process?
fastfinge 5 points 6y ago
Personally, I'd rather have EPub or html anyway. I've never gotten a PDF that was fully accessible, and am to the point where I don't bother asking for an "accessible pdf" anymore. I just directly request some other format.

I'm sorry I can't be more helpful! But thanks for posting, anyway; your post serves as an interesting insight into the problems with PDF production for those of us who are blind.
qagir [OP] 3 points 6y ago
Thanks.
I will produce some ePub or HTML, then. Thanks.
fastfinge 2 points 6y ago
Does InDesign produce epubs directly? I have no idea what the state of accessibility testing tools for epubs is. If you pm me a copy of an epub, I can take a look at it for you, if you want.
qagir [OP] 2 points 6y ago
I does produce epubs directly, I just tested, and it works like a charm for what I'm looking for. The epubs are quite ugly but are great for screen readers (as a friend said).
fastfinge 1 points 6y ago
Good to hear! I'll keep that in mind if I need accessible content from anyone else using InDesign.
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