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Python/Computer Programming/Sight Impaired/Computers (self.Blind)
submitted by SarahToo194
When the opportunity arises, I like to ask people to, for example, install Windows -- blindfolded and with no sound. Try it sometime. Seriously. When it comes to programming, do the same for yourself -- sightless and without sound -- write a 'hello world' programme.
All developers should at least give a nod to people who are not as able bodied as themselves.
It is called, by the way, Universal Access.
All developers should at least give a nod to people who are not as able bodied as themselves.
It is called, by the way, Universal Access.
snow671 3 points 6y ago
I can't really tell if this is a rant about developers or a challenge for blind/VI folk. Heaven knows I was yelling the same things while trying to install Steam, though.
Anyway, I can't wait to dust off the braille display and give this a shot tomorrow!
Anyway, I can't wait to dust off the braille display and give this a shot tomorrow!
SarahToo194 [OP] 2 points 6y ago
To all but undo a quote from Charles Babbage: If only Steam could have solved that calculation!
It is not a rant. I really do hope it does not seem like that 'cause I sure do not mean it to be. But ... I do feel that the notion of Universal Accessibility is _way_ under considered. Just, over all. Ya'know? That is all I'm talking abt.
I could not install Windows/Linux/Whatever without a lot of help (and blessed be those who have). My vision is basically just light-and-dark 'things'. I have no hearing.
So, I just say'n: Please, y'all who do write code for this-that-the-other-thing -- please make Universal Accessibility part of your musings.
It is not a rant. I really do hope it does not seem like that 'cause I sure do not mean it to be. But ... I do feel that the notion of Universal Accessibility is _way_ under considered. Just, over all. Ya'know? That is all I'm talking abt.
I could not install Windows/Linux/Whatever without a lot of help (and blessed be those who have). My vision is basically just light-and-dark 'things'. I have no hearing.
So, I just say'n: Please, y'all who do write code for this-that-the-other-thing -- please make Universal Accessibility part of your musings.
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Fange_Strellow 3 points 6y ago
Why are you turning off sound? I'm not sure what you are getting at here.
SarahToo194 [OP] 1 points 6y ago
Just asking temporally able bodied code developers, package designers, city planners, whom all ever, to get a sense of the world without, for example, hearing, or sight, or mobility, etc....
For me, addressing these ideas is about promoting the idea/s of Universal Accessibility. So, in the context of what I said, try and install Windows, for example, or Ubuntu, with a blindfold on and no sound to assist. Try it some time. Just you yourself. Seriously! Having accomplished that, try writing some Python scripts in IDLE.
See how far you get. Then, please, apply what you've learned to your deliverable/s.
It is just an accessibility rant z'all. Something to keep in mind, please: Universality.
For me, addressing these ideas is about promoting the idea/s of Universal Accessibility. So, in the context of what I said, try and install Windows, for example, or Ubuntu, with a blindfold on and no sound to assist. Try it some time. Just you yourself. Seriously! Having accomplished that, try writing some Python scripts in IDLE.
See how far you get. Then, please, apply what you've learned to your deliverable/s.
It is just an accessibility rant z'all. Something to keep in mind, please: Universality.
Fange_Strellow 5 points 6y ago
Wouldn't it be better if they tried those things using the accessibility tools people with sensory disabilities have? Otherwise you are painting a picture of people as completely helpless, which is not true.
I'd much prefer people to see the tools I am currently using for access so that they can make "deliverables" engineered with those tools in mind, rather than believing that I am completely helpless and not a reachable audience for their product.
I think I understand what you are trying to get at, but do consider fully how I might see your message as incomplete and possibly ineffective.
I'd much prefer people to see the tools I am currently using for access so that they can make "deliverables" engineered with those tools in mind, rather than believing that I am completely helpless and not a reachable audience for their product.
I think I understand what you are trying to get at, but do consider fully how I might see your message as incomplete and possibly ineffective.
SarahToo194 [OP] 1 points 6y ago
Very true! Yes. Very! What might you suggest people try?
Fange_Strellow 3 points 6y ago
I'd like people who are out there producing things to engage personally with individuals with disabilities. I would love to sit down with an app maker, movie-producer, or video-game designer and show them how I use my computer with my accessibility tools turned on. I'd like to brainstorm with them on simple ways that could open up mainstream entertainment to myself and others with just a few tweaks here and there. To me, it is more than awareness, it is also bringing in people to talk and think together.
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