Bring your karma
Join the waitlist today
HUMBLECAT.ORG

Blind and Visually Impaired Community

Full History - 2017 - 04 - 27 - ID#67z159
8
For those of you who are legally blind/ low vision, how do you play video games? (self.Blind)
submitted by PuzzledPieces
I have optic nerve hypoplasia , I have an acuity of 20/200 in my good left eye and my acuity isn't measurable in my right . I love to play video games but have recently come into some complications .

I now share an apartment with my girlfriend , while that isn't the complication, what is is that she has her TV set up differently the the set up that used to work for me . I have to really strain my eyes and crane my neck to see my games , and most of these games don't have settings to make it more accommodating .

What I want to know for those of you that play video games and share space with someone else , is how you are still able to play. Do you use screen magnifiers or anything ? Or do you know anything that might help reading small print and small maps ?

Thank you !
jvkohler 6 points 6y ago
I have some pretty low vision, 20/400 in my good eye at last check, and I love to game. My biggest recommendation is to use PCs, not consoles.

I have the smallest 1920x1080 LCD display that I could find attached to an Ergotron LX arm. This is great and lets me move the monitor an inch away from my face so that I can see it, and lets me easily move it away again when I don't want to feel so claustrophobic. With my sight I can't view the sides of the screen while I'm looking at the middle (this wasn't a problem with smaller 4:3 displays). Most games give me a resolution and aspect ratio choice, and when available I'll take a 4:3 screen mode. For games that only show you navigation in a minimap that sits in the corner of your screen this is a must. While your at it, take a lower resolution if the text is too small. This will enlarge the game in a way the developer has planned for. I've been playing games since the 80's so a few less pixels doesn't bother me nearly as much as slow framerates which will be less of a problem the fewer pixels there are.

I also like to play solo and co-op games with my spouse. To make this happy for everyone we use separate monitors hooked up to the same nVidia GTX 780ti graphics card, one as DVI-D and the other as HDMI. Any halfway decent nVidia or AMD card can do dual monitors without any problem. Put Windows in mirrored mode and game away. Our monitors both have USB hubs in them, so we can plug controllers, keyboards and mice into our own monitors and not have to worry about cord tangles or stretches. This is also how we watch movies, browse the web together or anything else. You can also do this in living rooms, you just need longer cables. Sighted people can watch the TV from the couch (which is just a big monitor really) while you watch an arm mounted monitor hooked to the couch arm or a side table.

After all that though, some games are just less accessible than others. I have always found that driving in GTA using the minimap is almost game-breaking, while using the >>> GIANT FLOATING ARROWS >>> in Saints Row lets me get really immersed. So there are some design elements that can help and hinder, and little you can do about them.

So in summary:

* Use a PC
* Use a monitor arm
* Use two monitors in mirrored mode
* Put your game into a lower resolution to magnify it
* Put your game into a 4:3 display mode to bring the sides closer.
Dyshonest 1 points 6y ago
What monitor do you use? I've been thinking of going this route and your post might have finally convinced me to take the plunge.
jvkohler 2 points 6y ago
I'm currently using a Dell P2214H, which is not great but works well enough for me. It's a 21.5" inch monitor despite what they say, which is about the smallest 1920x1080 displays I can find. There are some 19.5" ones, but they didn't have the contrast and viewing angles I need. Being so close to the screen I really need the 178 degree viewing both horizontally and vertically. I have mine attached to two computers and it allows me to assign the buttons on the front to switch inputs, which is convenient. Whatever you get make sure it's VESA mountable though. There are a couple of standard mount sizes and you can get converter plates if you need to, but if the holes aren't there you can't do anything.
PuzzledPieces [OP] 1 points 6y ago
I can't upvote this response enough!!! I really like PC gaming but alas I do not have a great gaming rig anymore , so I just have my MacBook Pro.

I'm mainly a console gamer . Lately I've been playing a lot of Fallout 4 , and while I love that game , I want to play something else . But because I've been playing this game so much I've grown accustomed to where everything is and such that I don't even really see things like the mini map.

I really want to play my copy of FInal Fantasy 15 more, I just discovered the zoom function on my PS4 , however when it's active you can't play the game so if you are mid combat it's not that great .

I'm interested in this monitor arm mentioned . Does it magnify things or just bring the screen closer to you ?
jvkohler 2 points 6y ago
It just brings the screen closer to me, my vision is pretty OK when things are only an inch away. It's actually an ergonomics product, and it's built to last. Keeps it's place well but doesn't take much effort to move it. Also has rotation, but I don't use that so I put the included screw in to keep it fixed flat. And tilt. I got an extra extension arm for mine so that it could travel even further out. No problems with it. I love the thing.

It does help me with my posture while computing. It lets me sit up straight rather than hunching toward the screen like I've done for years.

I bought mine on Amazon, but this is the manufacturers page:
http://www.ergotron.com/en-us/products/product-details/45-241#/
PuzzledPieces [OP] 1 points 6y ago
That looks really cool , heck maybe I'll just get one for my laptop for school . I don't think it would be able to support a 48" TV .
jvkohler 2 points 6y ago
The HX arm says it supports up to 42 lbs. The first time I came across an Ergotron arm it was holding up a 32" CRT. That thing probably weighed around 50lbs.
KillerLag 4 points 6y ago
For most of my low vision friends, they usually sit much closer to the screen to play.

For totally blind players, they often play games by listening for audio cues. Or playing games specifically designed for blind players.
0x59d 3 points 6y ago
[http://www.audiogamehub.com/] (http://www.audiogamehub.com/) develop mobile games for the blind and visually impaired available on almost all platforms. They are trying to include the blind/visually impaired in the gaming community. However, they need all the support they can get. If you'd like to support them, give Audio Game Hub and Blind Cricket a try. They are very addicting and fun!
lurking_in_the_bg 2 points 6y ago
Hi there just stumbled across this sub and this post. For me personally, the ability to stream the game to the PC/Laptop is what allows me to play most console games. The PS4 and Xbox One both have the ability to stream the games to your Windows PC and from there you can use your typical Windows accessibility software such as zoom to make the games more accessible.
PuzzledPieces [OP] 1 points 6y ago
I never really thought about streaming my games . I know the PS4 has an app , but I have never really tried it . I'm a mac user so I haven't looked into their accessibility features much.
lurking_in_the_bg 1 points 6y ago
I use said app on my Windows laptop and it allows me to read text and play most slow paced games fairly well. I do recall them having a similar client for the Mac and I assume it should function similarly. If the console and the computer are on the same network it works flawlessly with little to no lag so it's as if you were playing it native on your computer.
PuzzledPieces [OP] 1 points 6y ago
What games do you play ?

I'm playing RPG's like Elder Scrolls and Fallout so sometimes things are a little intense ..
lurking_in_the_bg 1 points 6y ago
Yeah those games are too intense for me I can't follow any action that moves too fast. My go to games are mostly turn based such as the Fire Emblem series, Final Fantasy series, Civilization, etc. I also did fairly well with GTA 5 since it has auto-aim and allowed you to skip missions if you failed them enough times so I was able to progress through the more challenging missions.

Going back to games like Fallout and other modern western RPGs I feel like I'm missing out on such good games but I just have so much trouble with expansive open world games where it's like my character in the game is just as blind as I am. I find it hard to follow the mini map and end up going around in circles and often not recognizing drops or chests and missing out on a lot of items. If you have any tips for games like Fallout or Skyrim or any similar games I'd like to hear them as I'd like to enjoy them some day as well.
tymme 1 points 6y ago
I play primarily on PC and sit pretty close to my monitor (about a foot away for a 24" monitor). If I need to read something specific, I'll either use windowed mode and Windows Magnifier or $1 I picked up at Target for $10 or so.

We also have a larger TV in the living room for when I play on consoles. The bedroom has a RetroPie I set up for her and I to play older console games together, and she'll sit on the bed and I'll stand to the side or sit on the edge of it closer to the TV so we can play together.

Some of it is also adjusting/knowing my limits for games in general-
I don't care for FPS anyway, but wouldn't play that or LoL-type games where I'm part of a team that needs me to act/react quickly. I'll generally play ARPGs where I can be solo or part of a mob rather than a specific group. Also turn-based strategy games where amount of time spent doesn't matter.
Vaelian 1 points 6y ago
Back when I had 20/200 visual acuity I only played games on the PC, where I could adjust the screen to a comfortable distance. I also had a 52" TV which I could watch perfectly from the comfort of the couch.
This nonprofit website is run by volunteers.
Please contribute if you can. Thank you!
Our mission is to provide everyone with access to large-
scale community websites for the good of humanity.
Without ads, without tracking, without greed.
©2023 HumbleCat Inc   •   HumbleCat is a 501(c)3 nonprofit based in Michigan, USA.