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How do you perceive racism? (self.Blind)
submitted by ilikebigbuttsszz
fastfinge 9 points 6y ago
By voice, almost entirely. I frequently catch myself treating people differently because of the accent they have. Sexism can happen the same way, of course.

The trouble is, because racism is always talked about to children as entirely about skin colour, I find some blind people I know don't really internalize that they, to, can be racist. We don't judge people by skin colour, so we're fine, right? Wrong!

The problem is, it really is quite easy to convince yourself that judging people by voice is a perfectly OK thing to do. For example, a Chinese baby who was adopted by white Canadian parents, and entirely raised by them, will sound completely "white". Someone raised in inner-city detroit will probably "sound black", even if they're white, or Korean, or anything else. So we're not actually racist, the argument goes, because we're judging people by culture. Apparently, and I've heard this said, "someone who sounds black will act black, so it doesn't matter." So yes, unfortunately, blind people can and will judge you to be whatever race you sound most like. And unfortunately, a few of us have decided that we're totally justified, and not racist at all.

I feel like I shouldn't even need to add this. But: accents and culture, and how they relate, are complicated. Stereotyping people by accent, or by culture, is no more OK than stereotyping them by skin colour. I hope these views aren't wide spread in the blind community, and I don't think they are. But I've heard the argument above twice so far this year, and I really don't want to hear it again. It could just be because I'm talking to more and different blind folks, or it could just be Coincidence that I'm hearing that crap more often. I hope so.
ilikebigbuttsszz [OP] 3 points 6y ago
I'm curious how racism actually manifest in someone. As a blind person I guess from what you have said it's through hearing what others say a specific culture is like which leads to how the judgment comes about.
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fastfinge 1 points 6y ago
Yup. Or from TV and Radio; BBC presenters have one accent, people on CNN another, and rappers a third. You never hear someone who sounds like Snoop Dogg on NPR talking about nuclear physics. Eventually, as a child, you draw the conclusion that everyone who sounds like Snoop Dogg acts like Snoop Dogg.
KillerLag 5 points 6y ago
Also remember that many people lose their vision later in life, I've met plenty of elderly people with vision loss who use a lot of... colourful words to refer to other races and groups.
EndlessReverberation 4 points 6y ago
Are you asking how blind people perceive racism, or how blind people perceive race? These are two totally different questions. Blind people perceive racism exactly how sighted people do; hopefully most blind people perceive racism as a bad thing, but there will be variations of course.

If your asking how we perceive race, yes we mainly perceive it by vocal characteristics and speech patterns, as well as people's names etc. It is true that elements such as speech patterns reflect culture, but let me point out that, for the most p[art, race is a social construct. Blind people can be as racist as sighted people and we can also be as fare minded as sighted people. Now, when it comes to ableism, the situation is more complex.
type_E 1 points 5y ago
(My last word before this archives)

When I first came across the topic of blind people racism, my assumption (am not blind, I'm an outsider to this sub) was that blind people may be able to have racist beliefs (or lack thereof) like other people, but in practice since they can't tell skin color by sight, it could be possible to fool the blind person if, say, a black person doesn't talk like a stereotypical black person, but rather with a generic, accentless "white" voice.
webgurl83 1 points 6y ago
I only use voice as an identifier as to what race someone might be. To me, it doesn't give a good enough perspective on how the person might behave in daily life.
bradley22 1 points 6y ago
It's stupid. we're all human, yes person 1 may have done something to someone but that does not mean person 1 is representing all of the people now does it?
ilikebigbuttsszz [OP] 1 points 6y ago
Yea I agree but unfortunately people then to assume easily and assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups
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ilikebigbuttsszz [OP] 1 points 6y ago
Would you be able to hear their race by their voices
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