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Iphone 10 accessibility (self.Blind)
submitted by Raf_AL
Anyone else curious about how voice over will work on the new Iphone 10. Isn't the home button the easiest way to turn voice over on and off. I mostly use this button, when voice over struggles to access links on websites. Personally, I think that the removal of the home button is going to make the Iphone 10 less accessible, but I might be wrong.
If anyone knows how Apple will get around this possible issue. feel free to share your thoughts. I'd really like to buy the new Iphone at some point.
If anyone knows how Apple will get around this possible issue. feel free to share your thoughts. I'd really like to buy the new Iphone at some point.
Nighthawk321 8 points 5y ago
Curious, yes, worried, no. Apple has always made their products accessible. There's even a mode for face ID to recognize you while your eyes are closed. I'm sure Apple will come up with something.
KillerLag 2 points 5y ago
I'm curious how secure that Face ID is going to be. So far, most facial recognition locks can be unlocked by a photo of the person.
Nighthawk321 2 points 5y ago
Apple said that theirs can't. It also can't be unlocked if the person looks away or has their eyes closed.
KillerLag 1 points 5y ago
If I recall, Apple also said their fingerprint scanner couldn't be fooled either, and some people figured how to bypass it three days after the phone was launched.
Nighthawk321 1 points 5y ago
Interesting. I wonder how they did that.
Nandflash 5 points 5y ago
On the iPhone X, triple clicking the side button acts as the accessibility shortcut.
Raf_AL [OP] 1 points 5y ago
That's good to know. Then it won't be that hard, if I decide to upgrade.
Amonwilde 4 points 5y ago
I am annoyed about the home button. I could care less about a larger screen...they're already enormous. More buttons and the ability to bind button functions would be really nice, though.
Marconius 3 points 5y ago
At this point I don't care what they release. I like my headphone jack and a form style that doesn't feel like it is going to slip out of my hand every time I pick it up, and I get that with the SE. Really hoping they just keep that version updated with the latest chips and otherwise leave it alone.
modulus 3 points 5y ago
I have an SE myself and don't plan to change any time soon, though phones have tragically short lifespans.
notmadjustnomad 2 points 5y ago
I completely agree that getting rid of the jack was a mistake
fastfinge 2 points 5y ago
I'm probably getting an iPhone 8 Plus, myself. Haven't fully decided. But is $300 for face recognition really worth it? If you're totally blind, the only things you get with the iPhone X are a larger and better screen you don't care about, an hour shorter battery life, face unlocking, and it's slightly lighter. Otherwise, it's identical to the 8 plus. So I could get a 256 gig 8 plus, and it would still be $100 cheaper than the iPhone X. I do like the idea of face recognition, though. If it was perfect, it could be faster and easier than touch ID. But I'll have to wait for the reviews. To be worth the extra $300, it really would need to be perfect, every time.
romanj35 2 points 5y ago
So the removal of the home button isn't that big of a deal. You can still tap on the screen quickly, which is what I imagine they will switch too. Button binding is also an option for apple. It's what I have set for the Samsung Galaxy S 8, a double press of the power button to turn the screen light off, and the power button and up volume button to turn the Samsung voice assistant on and off if google's talk back is going wonky for some reason.
Raf_AL [OP] 1 points 5y ago
Thanks for your input. I've also been thinking about moving over to an android phone instead, since the Iphones are so expensive. Do you know how much talk back differs from voice over?
romanj35 1 points 5y ago
as far as basic sttuff goes, they aren't that different. Text messages, phone calling, social media stuff. I basically explain it like this, I've had some apple issues that talk back stomps them on, and some google issues that apple runs circles around them with. I still have an ipad mini 4, I've had iphones and the galaxy s phones since the 4, for both.
I will say that, for right now, I'm happier with the samsung phone. But I like the web on the ipad, safari I prefer more. There are a ton of more applications on android you can dig around on. But both operating systems have the same amount of workable blind-accessable games so they break even there.
Yeah, if 'cost' is your primary factor then a mid-range android phone, 80 to 300 dollar phone will do for everything that I myself do with a smartphone.
I will say that, for right now, I'm happier with the samsung phone. But I like the web on the ipad, safari I prefer more. There are a ton of more applications on android you can dig around on. But both operating systems have the same amount of workable blind-accessable games so they break even there.
Yeah, if 'cost' is your primary factor then a mid-range android phone, 80 to 300 dollar phone will do for everything that I myself do with a smartphone.
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