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Website Accessibility Tools - Just trying to get an idea of how blind people find the current landscape of the internet and thoughts on how it could be made better. I’ve seen a few websites with accessibility tools such as AudioEye’s Ally Toolbar, but how well do these tools help? (self.Blind)
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bondolo 1 points 5y ago
Add-ons like the Ally toolbar are garbage. They are in no way a substitute for making a web site accessible. Providing end-user accessibility tools; screen readers, magnifiers, input systems with well marked up, standards based content with the best avenue to ensure accessibility. Consider looking at the $1 survey results and participating the in the current survey.
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bondolo 2 points 5y ago
An add-on plugin toolbar can't make a website magically accessible any more than a magic liquid can increase gas mileage, a magic powder can reduce calories in food or a weird trick by a local teen can make you suddenly attractive. It is snake oil for idiots who didn't consider accessibility as part of their web design and are desperate for a magic pill to fix their problems without doing any actual technical work. It can't write alt text that doesn't exist, label unlabeled buttons or text fields, provide missing headings to tables, repair broken tab order, eliminate keyboard traps or any of the other common accessibility problems.

Audioeye frequently makes it more difficult for screen readers, magnification (zoomtext) and dragon naturally speaking users to access Audioeye enabled websites. Navigating within an "enhanced" page is more difficult because the page structure has additional layers and elements inserted even beyond the annoying inescapable toolbar elements. It also frustratingly randomly refreshes the page and sends focus back to the toolbar. It is generally just a source of frustration rather than assistance to those already using access technology.

So, please take at least a minute to research before you claim that something can totally solve a complex and difficult problem.
fastfinge 1 points 5y ago
Do you work for audioeye? Because either total ignorance or being a paid shill are the only reason to defend that trash. Not only does it not do what it advertises, it also does things that actively make screen reader access far worse.

/u/whoswhowhoknew: don't use third party addons like this, for anything, ever. Instead, follow the W3C standards and let people use the tools they already own. Doing otherwise makes your site unusable.

Edit: yup. MicronBull has written $1 shilling for this company.
MicronBull -1 points 5y ago
I can see that no one agrees with you.

I can see how that must be hard.

I can see that you are likely working for a competitor of audioeye's, given your heated rhetoric and tone.

I can see that arguing with you yields very little results.

I can see that others agree with me (and not you), and all that I hope for is that Audioeye's solution can help makes the world a better place for the disabled.

fastfinge 4 points 5y ago
> I can see that no one agrees with you.

Actually, everyone who posted other than yourself does. I can see that you're an obvious troll.
whoswhowhoknew [OP] -1 points 5y ago
^coming from the person who posts about Pornhub’s accessibility upgrade.....

Can you explain how it makes it worse? Also, how does it not do what it advertises? Because it says that you can change the font, and you can change the font - it says you can change the contrast, and you can change the contrast. It says that it will read the page, and it reads the page. I can accept your disapproval of the product, but would like you to back it up.
fastfinge 2 points 5y ago
Because none of those tools provide any use what so ever. Every blind or low vision user of a computer already has tools that can do all of those things, and do them far better. All the toolbar does is add clutter, making web pages harder to navigate with the existing tools we already have. If the web page is accessible enough to work with audioeyes, it's accessible enough to work with our existing tools, like NVDA or Zoomtext. If it won't work with NVDA or Zoomtext, audioeyes won't help either.

> coming from the person who posts about Pornhub’s accessibility upgrade.....

You've been told multiple times by multiple people that this product is completely worthless trash. You only seem interested in dismissing the opinions of users and being insulting. I wonder why that is? I'm really starting to doubt your motives in asking the question, if you have no interest in accepting the answer.
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whoswhowhoknew [OP] 0 points 5y ago
Well that’s what the rest of the Ally toolbar comes with, right? Contrast settings, magnification, marked up captioning of photos. Becoming conformant with AA level of compliance has to be something.
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