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Full History - 2018 - 01 - 21 - ID#7s20sv
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Stupid question about blind people (self.Blind)
submitted by NShader
Do blind people from birth, those that have never seen, see only black? Just like non-blind people see black when they close their eyes, do they see black always? Or is it something else?
fastfinge 24 points 5y ago
We see nothing. Because we have nothing to compare it to. So our brains don't process visual data at all.
NShader [OP] 8 points 5y ago
So, it's just black? I know it's dumb to ask you that, but is it that? Or it's really just nothing?
KillerLag 22 points 5y ago
You are thinking about it the wrong way.

Let me ask you about this... how does the electroreceptive sense feel to you? It doesn't feel like blackness... but it doesn't feel like anything. Because you haven't experienced it before, you wouldn't have a frame of reference for what you don't feel.

This is the sense I am talking about, btw. It is usually only found in aquatic life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroreception
Hjax 12 points 5y ago
While not blind myself, here’s a better way to think about the question you are asking:

What color do you see out of your elbow? Black? Because I don’t see at all out of my elbow
fastfinge 8 points 5y ago
I can't know. I've never seen anything. Even if it were black, I would have nothing to compare it with.
SlapstickVampire 4 points 5y ago
If you were to suddenly go blind, you would think of it as black because you wouldn't be getting input. But no, blind people don't know what black is and all black really is to us is an absence of light.

Also, I think this might help you begin to understand:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/05/26/314621545/the-blind-woman-who-sees-rain-but-not-her-daughters-smile

It sort of explains a little bit how the brain divides up various kinds of visual input. It still blows my mind, but it is another piece that might help you understand.
bloodbank5 3 points 5y ago
this experiment (for sighted people) may help you understand: close one eye, but keep the other open while looking around. what color do you see out of your closed eye? usually, your brain tunes out the signal from it completely since you have the other eye open - you don't see black, white, or anything for that matter out of your closed one. if that worked, now imagine that with both eyes!
kennywk 9 points 5y ago
I’m only blind in one eye and have been from birth (optic nerve hypoplasia). For me, there is no light or darkness or anything in that eye.
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KillerLag 3 points 5y ago
If someone only lost one eye but still had the other one, the brain uses the existing eye for vision. You'll lose some stereo vision, but that would be about it.

In some cases, if one eye is good but the other is exceptionally poor (Amblyopia, also called lazy eye), the brain may actually stop paying attention to the poor eye. In some cases, that presents as blackness to that one eye, in other cases, it just results in severely reduced vision. That is why for children, they do the patching... What they are doing is patching the GOOD eye, to force the brain to work with the weaker eye to improve the connection.

SamuelstackerUSA 1 points 5y ago
That makes me think; in some language classes, the class is spoken In that language. I’m guessing it’s like patching up the good “eye” (language in this case) so the brain works harder
NShader [OP] 1 points 5y ago
I see. So, that wouldn't be "black" per se.
awesomesaucesaywhat 8 points 5y ago
It's been equated to seeing out of your elbow. Do you see black? Or does it not register.
lhamil64 1 points 5y ago
I also can't see out of one eye. My entire field of view is out of my right eye, I don't see black on the left or anything like that. It's like taking a picture and cropping it in half (so the entire picture is just the right side). Seeing black would be like drawing a black rectangle over the left side.
ionicguy 6 points 5y ago
When you tell someone blind from birth "Do you see black" I assume they ask you: "What the f is black?".

Do you now see why your question isn't easy to answer?
13chaggit 1 points 5y ago
Obviously not. Colours (including black) require sight to be perceived.
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