My VI uncle complains about it but wanted to hear from other users. How frequently do you use their service? Too expensive? Effective? Any feedback is appreciated.
Marconius6 points5y ago
I've had it for a few months now, and though a little pricey, but has been a good safety net for myself. I've only been blind for 4 years and find having direct access to a live agent who can describe my surroundings, navigate me, pull stuff up on the internet for you while walking around. I'm mostly looking forward to Chloe, the onboard AI named after the 24 Character which will read signs and otherwise do live OCR on the fly. The agents have done really well with descriptions, helping me find my Lyft in a crowded area, helped me shop by myself at Safeway, things I'd use Be My Eyes for when out and about and not near wifi. It's worth a shot especially if the DOR can pay for it, but also depends on your lifestyle and level of independence. Just another lifeline and tool in our growing accessibility toolset.
derrekjthompson2 points5y ago
I've wondered about this. I have a hunch that people who go blind later in life use it more than people who were born blind. For me, I've went my whole life without this service, so now that I have it it's kind of hard to think of things I need it for.
Able_Me1 points5y ago
I feel like a lot of sighted designers are focused on helping people with severe visual impairments navigate, but from what I've researched, visually impaired users are more interested in better interfaces with existing resources and technologies. How do you think this relates to technologies like Aira?
Marconius1 points5y ago
Keeping accessibility in mind at the get-go of any project is key, as is creating a fully inclusive experience that does not segregate the visually impaired community from all other users. Making custom pages or experiences makes overall accessibility hard to maintain since now two projects must have resources to run, rather than making one accessible project properly in the first place. Aira helps us navigate experiences with bad accessibility while waiting for the people responsible to do the right thing and remediate the experience. Whether it is reading mail, surfing poorly designed webpages, using inaccessible appliance touchscreens, it gives you eyes and an additional person to help when out and about in the world. Using Aira as a quick orientation and mobility device is awesome since I can call an agent, have them describe my surroundings, help me build a route around the space, and after memorizing and familiarizing myself with the space, I'd no longer depend on the agent for that space.
Able_Me1 points5y ago
I see, so these services are more of a stop gap while awareness catches up and more designers make their content and infrastructure accessible.
Marconius1 points5y ago
Not necessarily. It depends on what scope you are focusing on. Aira works both for physical accessibility such as orientation and mobility and overall description of the world purely for exploration, letting blind users go places difficult to navigate without assistance.
Developers making apps and sites accessible is purely separate from aira as it is just a thing that they need to do to do good business. Aira helps people surmount accessibility issues, it was not developed purely with that type of assistance in mind. It's generally more for our own discovery of the world endependently.
AllHarlowsEve5 points5y ago
Every person I know who has paid for the service has really enjoyed it. The advantage is that you constantly have access to somebody who’s actually had a background check and training, as opposed to be my eyes.
I personally wouldn’t pay for it, but if I had the disposable income for it, I probably would.
quanin5 points5y ago
You know, I think I took a survey on whether or not I'd use that, courtesy the $1. I also think I gave it a pass, given it doesn't do anything existing apps/services don't already do for less than what they're charging, and they don't mention if you or they are paying for access to the AT&T mifi service. Not that that particular detail would impact me (I'm well outside AT&T's coverage area), but were I a potential customer I'd be asking questions, and that'd be my first one.
emwells [OP]3 points5y ago
Hmm.. I’ll have to contact CNIB and see if they can show me some results from that survey. Very interesting. Thanks!
derrekjthompson2 points5y ago
Data plan is included in the price. If Att doesn't cover your area they give you a Verizon Mifi.
quanin1 points5y ago
Slightly more reasonable, though I know of areas neither AT&T nor Verizon will touch reliably. Still, if this is supposed to be aimed at people who typically aren't doing the employed thing, $89/month for 100 minutes at a minimum is perhaps a wee bit steep. Especially when there are cheaper alternatives.
derrekjthompson1 points5y ago
I agree. I don't see it as a necesity, and I wouldn't advise subscribing if you're barely scraping by. However if you can afford it your life will be enriched somewhat and you will have more independence and peace of mind. It really is a unique service that I don't think you can compare to anything else. The Be My Eyes people aren't really trained the same way and since their volunteers there's sort of an implied limot with how "frivolous" you can be that isn't there with Aira. It's more empowering.
quanin2 points5y ago
I believe Be My Eyes is entering a partnership with the Microsoft disability folks, so they'd be about as trained as that, I'd imagine. There's also the fact that ira has off hours. If you're not in EST, or need assistance after about 1:00 AM EST, you're still looking for alternatives.
dmazzoni2 points5y ago
What other services connect you with a live operator?
There are apps that will identify an object. Aira connects you to a human being who can help you with anything.
quanin1 points5y ago
So does Be My Eyes, and it's both cheaper and doesn't rely on AT&T. And Be My Eyes just announced a partnership with Microsoft's disability department.
-shacklebolt-4 points5y ago
I don't personally use it, but I know several people who do.
If you're working outside of the house, or travel a lot, it seems like it could be useful for tasks that are inconvenient to do non-visually. There are some things automated tools simply can't do as quickly as a person can.
How much value it might have to you depends on how you use it, personally I don't feel like I need it at the current price point. If they offered a cheaper plan without the glasses or mifi devices, I'd probably be more interested.
I really like where they're going with the "site access" agreements, and I think that's the way forward for a lot of places. They have the service available in some airports now for example. As far as I know, you just sign up for a guest account, then can use the service for free at the airport on your personal smartphone.
If they're able to successfully expand that model, I imagine there's a lot of places where it's mutually beneficial for them to buy service and offer it free to their blind visitors. Museums and galleries, theme parks, convention centers, event venues, and so on.
brass4442 points5y ago
My husband just had it approved as “accommodation” by his employer. He travels regularly for work. As others suggested, he lost vision later in life (just a few years ago).
Between inaccessible websites/buildings etc and travel (where people want to pull him and Uber drivers have let him out at wrong locations late at night) he’s optimistic about how it will help. His work computer often locks up and he has no idea why.
Be my eyes can do a lot but the people are volunteers not trained professionals.
derrekjthompson2 points5y ago
I have it, but don't use it very much. It works well, but just doesn't have many uses where it's the best way to do something in my life right now. It's worth it if it doesn't break your bank, I feel good knowing it's available if I need it, but if you're on a tight budget probably not. Also though, I live in a rural area. I feel like if I lived in town I would probably use it a lot more. I have no plans to cancel it soon though, it can come in handy.
jage91 points5y ago
I find I use it more for non-travel tasks, such as filling out inaccessible PDF's, taking photos of items I'm listing on Craigslist, or reading inaccessible touchscreen devices. Be My Eyes can handle some of this, but AIRA usually gets the job done faster.
emwells [OP]0 points5y ago
u/quanin whoops I spelled the company wrong. Deleted and rewrote the post lol
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