Question about sidewalk Encounter with Blind man(self.Blind)
submitted 5.294799704218107y ago by Squatdiddly
Hi everyone, this is kind of just a random question but it has been bugging me all day. Today I was walking downtown to the bank and at a crosswalk a visually impaired man with a cane asked if anyone was crossing that could help him across. I offered to help him and led him to the other side, when we got across he asked for directions to a place I wasn't familiar with but I GPS mapped it on my phone. The destination was about 4 miles away, I told him that and he asked if I could lead him there, I told him I'm sorry but I'm in the middle of my shift and need to get back to my work. He got very upset and started screaming obscenities at me, calling me ungrateful and such. I know it isn't normal to expect a stranger to walk 4 miles with you in the middle of a workday, but is there anything I could have done to help him get where he was going? Thanks
LanceThunder23 points5y ago
mental illness does not discriminate based on ability. people from all walks of life crack under the pressure any having to deal with the barriers that come with a disability can be *a lot* of pressure to deal with. you didn't do anything wrong so i wouldn't let it bother you too much.
redstone133714 points5y ago
It sounds like he didn’t have much orientation and mobility training.
KillerLag5 points5y ago
Indeed not... missing your target by 4 miles requires some severe lack of skill
bradley224 points5y ago
He just didn't know where to go and wanted directions to the place. How does that count as missing your target?
quanin3 points5y ago
No, he wanted someone who wasn't going remotely his way to sighted guide him 4 miles out of their way, either not realizing or not really caring that that person would then have to make the 4-mile trip back. That tells me either he missed his target, or he had absolutely no idea where his target was in the first place. If that first one, then yeah he needs to work a wee bit more on his O&M skills... preferably supervised. If that second one, then I don't care how good the O&M instructor is... they're not going to teach him how to pay the fuck attention.
bradley223 points5y ago
I do agree that paying attention is vital when traveling with a cain. However I do not agree that a mobility instructor cannot teach you how to pay attention. I think they can. If you're new at using a cain, paying attention to your surroundings should be one of the first things a mobility instructor teaches you, along with asking for help.
I don't think the OP should walk the guy four miles. as i said in my post to the OP, he didn't do anything wrong at all.
redstone13371 points5y ago
I was talking about needing help to cross the street. I've never heard of that as a viable O&M strategy unless you're deafblind, which I guess could be possible in his case.
PM_ME_UR_FLOWERS1 points5y ago
I've had it happen to me, but I was very drunk. (still got home ok)
narfarnst11 points5y ago
You could have looked up the closest bus stop or google mapped a bus route and told him about it. But other than that, no. It's totally unreasonable for somebody to expect a stranger to walk them four miles. Like somebody else said, I wouldn't really worry about it.
Cattus_deam9 points5y ago
Oh, gosh. Sorry that happened to you. You did good and absolutely nothing wrong. I think he needs to look up the definition of ungrateful.
fastfinge6 points5y ago
Nope, this is him. As another commenter said, my first thought is some sort of mental illness. Now, thanks to issues with buses breaking down, and/or crappy cab drivers, I have been in situations where I wound up completely lost, four or five miles from my intended destination, with no cell phone. Yes, that's really damn stressful. No idea exactly where I am, or how I'm going to get out of the fix I'm in. However, any solution that depends on others going far out of there way is never OK. You did all you should have: you told him how far it was, and pointed him in the right direction. The correct response on his part is to start walking. Perhaps the person he asks for help at the next crossing will already be headed that way. Or, if not, they may be able to make sure he's still going the right way. And in that way, asking for 30 seconds of help from people we meet, a blind person can pinball our way from sighted person to sighted person back into familiar territory.
PM_ME_UR_FLOWERS3 points5y ago
As a vision-impaired person, I have a philosophy: you can be handicapped but that doesn't make it ok to be an asshole. It's not ok to make excessive demands of random strangers, whether you have a vision impairment it not.
In other words, forget it. You have no cause to feel guilty.
bradley223 points5y ago
You didn't do anything wrong. As for mental illness, he could have a mental illness, or, he could be one of those blind people that thinks that the sighted world owes them everything. As it is with sighted people and peple in general, you're going to get nice ones and then you're going to get the not so nice ones. I don't like help forced apon me and according to your post, you didn't force him across the road at all,, so I'd say that either he was stressed for some reason or just wanted to get sighted guide to where ever it is he was going. Thing is, you can't always get that. As another poster said, you can ask people and then once you find somewhere you're used to, go from there. i'm not good at miles, meaters yards and all that but I just looked it up and cortana tells me that depending on how fast you walk, the average person can walk one mile in about 20 to 30 minutes, so it would have taken him perhaps an hour to get to where he needs to go. If you come across a situation like that again,, depending on his skill with a phone, I'd recommend telling the person about uber and perhaps offering to direct them to the nearest taxi rank (sorry I don't know what that is called outside of the UK) would be useful. It's a place where cabs or taxis pull up and they usually have a controler there and you can get in a taxi and tel the person where you want to go.
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