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Full History - 2018 - 04 - 27 - ID#8fbskr
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In your experiance, if a Word Document uses headings properly and good alt text and passes the Office "Accessibility Checker" is it as accessible as a PDF that passes a PDF/UA check? (self.Blind)
submitted 5.284501832561729y ago by not_a_lizard-person
I am trying to teach people how to use Acrobat to make thier documents accessible. And people are having a terrible time trying to learn it. I really like the tools Microsoft has built into Office to help check and fix accessibility issues.

Do I need to convert them to PDF for screen reader users? The convertion process can strip out important accessibility information. It just feels risky to do the conversion if it works as a Word Document.

I would be greatful for your thoughts.
AllHarlowsEve 5 points 5y ago
PDF documents are garbage and should die in a fire. /s.

Seriously, though, if they work in literally any other format and you don't have to lock them from being editted or some other weird use, just don't use PDF's. They navigate like shit using certain screen readers, and are more frustration than they're worth the majority of the time.
not_a_lizard-person [OP] 4 points 5y ago
I know! I tell everyone to fucking stop using them unless they have a legit reason. They were engineered in hell as a method to hurt people with disabilities and get sued at the same time.
jofish22 2 points 5y ago
A lot of details don’t work properly, in short. Really the problems is that PDFs are criminally inaccessible, but that’s the best process to fix that I know of.
jofish22 2 points 5y ago
Probably not sufficient. This is the guide my community uses to create accessible PDFs. The process really does suck. But hopefully useful.

https://chi2018.acm.org/guide-to-an-accessible-submission/
not_a_lizard-person [OP] 1 points 5y ago
What types of difficencies have you experienced as a screen reader users?
fastfinge 2 points 5y ago
Depends how they're converted. There are multiple tools to make pdf files. Obviously, "print as pdf" will just convert the content into an image; that's no good. 😁
Warthil 2 points 5y ago
I have never tried the Accessibility Checker. I had someone put a couple of documents through the check. That I thought were problematic. Specifically, it included one of my pet peeves. It used tables to align text on the page. Unnecessary use of tables in annoying. However, Word suggested setting table headers to fix it. I would have preferred a different solution. On the good side it prompted the reviewer to add more headings to the document. I also like the fact that it provides users the instructions to do each step.

Those using text to speech can certainly use Word. I use Pages more often but Word is sometimes required when working with others. I never knew about the Accessibility Checker. Thank you. Based on a quick review it is not perfect but an easy way to prompt people to improve documents.
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