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I am in my wits' end getting gainful employment (self.Blind)
submitted 5.208604230967079y ago by silverBullet200
I apply every job I think I am qualified for or I can do, but either they toss my application to trash or delete it. Even when I am fortunate enough to be interviewed, I only get rejection letters the second I left from their office. When even mcDonald's rejects you, you question your humanity.

As for State Services for the blind agencies, although helpful and trying their best to land you a job, they can't force an employers. Even academia ( which I hoped they would be sympathetic to my plight) aren't responding to me. I honestly don't know what to do.
Amonwilde 26 points 5y ago
If you're applying to everything, you have a problem. That's almost like saying you're equally good at everything, and if you're equally good at everything, chances are it's not that you're equally awesome at everything.

What I'm saying is, you need to specialize. If you want to be a teacher, you need to have taught. In the unlikely event you want to be a telemarketer, demonstrate public speaking or an orientation toward service. But if your resume is written for everything, or is a hodge-podge, that doesn't look very desirable.

Pick something you could realistically do and decide what steps you're going to take to become attractive in that area. This could involve volunteering or it could involve physically getting out and talking to people who work in that profession. It could also mean starting a blog or doing something entrepreneurial.

The subtext of your post is that you deserve a job and getting rejected, and especially not hearing back from people, is an insult to you. The world does not actually owe you a job. There are millions of unemployed people in this and every country. For better or worse, it's on you to convince someone that you're valuable enough to pay for your service. It also sounds like you think you're above a job at McDonalds. Well, maybe you're not above it. These are strangers who don't owe you anything, so have humility in your attitude and interactions. You're the one asking for something, after all.

So my concrete advice:

- Specialize. Then specialize some more.
- Be humble. You're the one asking for stuff.
- Don't expect interactions. It's not really standard for you to get rejection letters and you shouldn't be surprised if you don't. It's polite for them to send you one but, again, they don't owe it to you.
- Think about what the hiring individual wants, not what you want. Nobody much cares what you want, people care about what they want.
- Don't be too hard on yourself. Most everyone is unemployed at different times. If you keep at it, you'll find a job eventually.
- Solicit feedback on your resume and cover letters. Accept feedback even if it's critical.

If you send me your resume or CV I'll take a look at it. Message me with a link to your resume or CV hosted somewhere. All the best to you, I know job searches are very tough mentally, physically, and emotionally.
silverBullet200 [OP] 2 points 5y ago
Thank you for taking the time to comment on my post, I really appreciate your effort. I did specialize, the perfect job I am looking for is an office job. I learned programming at college and know couple of languages, the problem is I am in this loop that every job requires experience and reference and I can’t get the experience or reference if no one is willing me the chance to prove myself. Every job I see online requires for me to have job experience and since no one gave me a chance to have that experience, it is hard for me to pass that initial hump.
And I am sorry that I come across arrogant sometimes, I am frustrated about my job search.
Amonwilde 2 points 5y ago
I feel you. Just keep doing things that put you in front of people and keep sharpening your skills. Something will happen. I was probably a little harsh but was just trying to convey some realities. I've been there as well. Much luck to you.
LarryWren 11 points 5y ago
Be patient. It is hard for ANYONE to get a job these days. It takes a long time, and a lot of searching. Disabled people are going to have an even rougher time finding a job. Just keep at it, though, and eventually something will come.

How much vision, if any, do you have? What qualifications and skills do you have?
silverBullet200 [OP] 2 points 5y ago
Thanks for the word of encouragement, I have some remaining eyesight, I am not completely blind.
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Myntrith 4 points 5y ago
Me too. I'm sighted, with years of experience, and I keep getting passed over.

But whatever you do, don't sound desperate. Apparently, "I'd like to have a steady income so I can maintain food and shelter" is a lame reason for wanting a job.
silverBullet200 [OP] 1 points 5y ago
It’s funny you say that because it is exactly the same question one of my interviewer asked me the other day, he said, “Why do you want to work for us?” I am a big fan of not starving, motherfucker!

Myntrith 1 points 5y ago
https://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/why-do-you-want-to-work-here

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/why-do-you-want-to-work-here-2061292

https://www.job-hunt.org/job_interviews/answering-why-work-here-question.shtml

https://biginterview.com/blog/2013/03/why-do-you-want-to-work-here.html

https://www.fastcompany.com/3062471/how-to-answer-why-do-you-want-to-work-here-on-a-job-interview

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lizryan/2017/08/31/how-to-answer-why-do-you-want-to-work-here-3/#5faf47c5459c
Myntrith 1 points 5y ago
Yep. It's a very common question in interviews.
EndlessReverberation 3 points 5y ago
Hi there,

Finding a good job is one of the most difficult aspects of being blind. There is a lot of discrimination out there in the job market. These days businesses get loads of resumes from lots of super qualified people, and employers have to find ways of sorting through the candidates to narrow the field. The ways employers do this can be arbitrary and unfair at the best of times, and people with disabilities have huge targets on our backs. You might have a chance if your resume sticks out above the rest in a good way, if you get someone who is open minded, willing to give you a chance, or if your applying for a niche job with fewer applicants.

A few random thoughts...

There is a huge growing problem in postindustrial countries where there are not enough good paying jobs for less educated people; just look at the political conversations taking place in America, Cole workers, people worried about other people taking their jobs, etc. Blind people without higher education have always had the deck stacked against them, but this is even more the case in our current climate. I don't know how much education you have, but this could be part of your problem. I believe that vocational rehabilitation in the United States will sometimes help you go to college, so if you don't at least have a four\-year degree you might want to look into that.

Even with education getting a good job is no sure thing. I have a blind friend who is super amazing; she is the biggest go getter I have ever seen, applying for hundreds of jobs, reaching out to companies that are not even hiring, just to make connections for when they do have job openings. She takes notes on interviews she gives and works on what she could have done better. She lives in NYC and has a vast network of people. She went back to school and got her masters, but she is still not having any luck, while she is watching everyone from her class get jobs. On the other hand, I got pretty lucky. I was not so amazing at applying for loads of jobs etc. and I only have a bachelor's degree; I really just got lucky with finding my current job. The only reason I'm bringing up my experience and my friend's experience is to point out how much luck and other unfair aspects go into finding a job. She deserves a job much more than I do.

One last thing, a lot of blind people end up working in the blindness field. This is one other difference between my situation and my friend's situation. for her, it is very important to get a job that has nothing to do with blindness. On the other hand, I test accessibility for a university, and my dream job would be to teach assistive technology. My wife, who has a master’s degree and a law degree, spent several years looking for mainstream jobs, only to end up taking a job working as the children's assistive technology expert for our state. There is nothing at all wrong with blind people working in the blindness field, however, it is a shame that some people have to turn to it for work because they could not do what they wanted.

So, look into further education/training/experience if you can, make connections, and consider the blindness field.

Above all, hang in there and remember that what you’re going through is a shared experience had by millions of people, it has nothing to do with your value has a person.
silverBullet200 [OP] 1 points 5y ago
Thank you for your kind words, I really appreciate. I have legally-blind friends and they always tell me that looking for work is waste of time, since no one is giving you even a fighting chance to begin with. And, always I try to prove them wrong – that employers are giving legally blind people a chance to prove themselves, but again and again job interview after interview, once they see your cane or you tell them your eyesight is not great, employers avoid you like the plague. But I remain hopeful when I see the Equal employer statement in the job application, thinking falsely, that it means something and employers are giving an honest chance to prove myself, but No, that is just a show. I just wonder why employers even bother stating they will hire disabled folk when most of them discard their applications. Is there a federal law or something that they have to at least pretend they’ll entertain hiring disabled folk?
That is really good idea to work in the blindness field. I would try and apply jobs that is related to accessibility since I know most of the screen readers and couple of programming languages. Maybe in the blindness field, they will be more lenient towards me.
CommaDelimitedList 1 points 5y ago
1. How do you know that they are throwing it in the trash and/or deleting it.

2. Why would you want a job in which the employer was forced to hire you?

PM me your resume and I'll take a look and see what's going wrong.
genericblindman 1 points 5y ago
There's no jobs anymore, your only real option is to be self employed. Practically the same for non disabled people too. Hence why so many people with viable degrees are starting to go live on farms in the USA instead of fruitlessly continuing to look for work, there's no jobs left. and they're not coming back, not with the current progress of automation. As for what remains it's cheaper for an employer to hire a non disabled person over a disabled person with the same level of skill since they don't need to provide anything extra to non disabled people. So you either gotta be worth the extra cost or not be disabled. Your best bet is probably to get involved in alternative economies, crypto currencies, community exchange networks, time banks, etc as they can mean the difference between life and death. But more than anything else make sure you're doing something you love because life is too short and stupid to piss away working for others to survive when you're just gonna die anyways.

::EDIT::
Places I know of that you can get started are:
steemit.com - a blogsite that uses the Steem crypto currency
yours.org - Another blogsite that uses Bitcoin Cash micropayments
Minds.com - same as above from what I understand.
Patreon.com - online "busking" service
Liberapay.com - a free and open source version of Patreon that is smaller but overall better thanks to its lack of service charges.
openbazaar.org/ - a free and open source virtual storefront protocol where you can buy and sell whatever you want with an increasing variety of crypto currencies.
If you're a programmer then just start a project and start doing regular dev updates on sites like this to build a portfolio and reputation. If you really want to work for someone else after that then you'd have a decent history to show for it, otherwise you are perfectly capable of creating your own wealth and livbing off of it if you're willing to put the work in to build yourself up. These sights are part of the "gifting economy" which is closely related to but not the same as the "sharing economy" which are two successful competing/complementary economic models to the mainstream model. They are also where a lot of the money is these days.
sonofabutch 1 points 5y ago
Have you tried NIB's $1? They also do occasional career fairs.
silverBullet200 [OP] 1 points 5y ago
I haven’t, but do they find jobs for legally-blind people? I registered for their website.
sonofabutch 1 points 5y ago
They employ people directly and also promote hiring by others.
spifflett 1 points 5y ago
Hey so where are you located, and what is your skill set? If you give us an idea of where you are and what you can do, folks who read this thread might be able to give you some leads.
silverBullet200 [OP] 1 points 5y ago
Thanks for asking, I am in Minnesota area. And I am good at tech-related jobs, mainly programming. I have intermediate knowledge of Java and Python. Office related jobs are perfect for me.
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