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Can voiceover read more than one page at a time? (self.Blind)
submitted by ArcanaNoir
I'm helping someone use VoiceOver on their iPhone while also using a very large font size. This makes documents like emails take up several pages of text. This person has some trouble with gestures such as skipping to the next page and while I think they will improve with practice, it would help if voiceover could simply read the whole email or whatever without having to manually advance the page. Is there such a setting?
Warthil 3 points 5y ago
Try two finger swipe down from top of screen.
ArcanaNoir [OP] 1 points 5y ago
This worked, thanks!
Warthil 2 points 5y ago
You can use that gesture for reading books in iBooks and webpages as well. For a better experience with web pages you may want to turn on reader mode. Reader mode removes a lot of garbage from the screen and makes reading more pleasurable. Though it may also remove some links, etc. Reader mode is especially good when reading news or other articles. The button for It is directly left of the url address bar. double tapping it will toggle it. Double tap and hold and it can be set to always use the setting for the specific website or all websites.
Warthil 2 points 5y ago
I should also have said reader mode only shows up when you go to a page where reader mode is available. For example go to $1 and click on any article and reader mode button will appear beside the address bar.

For an easier news experience try the CNN lite website

$1

Run your finger over the screen and find an article you would like to read. Without removing that finger touch the screen with another finger. This will do the same as a double tap. I sometimes find this easier than double tapping on the screen. You may already know that gesture but I figured I would mention it.
Warthil 2 points 5y ago
One last thing. If the individual is just learning voiceover go to the App Store and search for VO starter. Download and try it. It is a great free app that helps people learn and practice gestures.
ArcanaNoir [OP] 1 points 5y ago
Thanks for the suggestion about the double tap. I had to slow down the double tap rate for him so keeping one finger on the screen and then touching with another finger could be helpful.
SnoobertDoobertDoo 2 points 5y ago
You can swipe downward with two fingers to get voiceover to read everything currently loaded on the screen automatically so you don't have to scroll manually.
ArcanaNoir [OP] 1 points 5y ago
Thanks :)
SnoobertDoobertDoo 2 points 5y ago
No problem :)
bradley22 2 points 5y ago
A bluetooth keyboard might help. He could use his Iphone but with a keyboard that he can touch. I've not used one in a long time but I believe you press the left and right arrows at the same time to turn quick nav mode on. This should allow him to press his right arrow to flick and go right and his left arrow to flick and go left. Having said that, I do think learning the gestures is a good idea, so that when he can't use his keyboard he'll have that to fall back on. Also you can change typing settings so that you can find the letter then lift your finger and it will type it for you, instead of having to double tap.
ArcanaNoir [OP] 1 points 5y ago
A keyboard is an interesting idea. I think part of his difficulty also is he is afraid to touch the phone screen. He is partially sighted so he wants to try to look at it first under his magnifier even though it is hopelessly small, and he might be a little afraid of the technology since he used to have a flip phone. Some actual buttons might help ease him into it better.

I did change the typing mode, I definitely find the "slide and lift" method much faster! So far he has just used Siri to send a couple texts, we haven't gotten to typing yet.
bradley22 2 points 5y ago
What I do is imagine the screen as a keyboard and can type quite fast using it. I think a bluetooth keyboard would be a good idea. i can't remember if you've mentioned this already but there's a zoom option in accessibility settings. https://www.imore.com/how-use-zoom-accessibility-iphone-and-ipad
ArcanaNoir [OP] 1 points 5y ago
He does use the zoom feature on his giant iPad, but I haven't turned it on for his phone because I'm afraid it will make things even more complicated with the voice over gestures. Plus I'm trying to wean him off looking at the screen entirely, since it's slowing him down.
bradley22 1 points 5y ago
You could try using just zoom on its own? From what I understand; you can use voiceover with zoom. Is he going to be completely blind one day as far as you know? If not, zoom might work better for him compared to voiceover.
AllHarlowsEve 2 points 5y ago
Is scrolling just by flicking right not working? That should scroll it automatically.
ArcanaNoir [OP] 1 points 5y ago
He's not very good at the flick gesture. A lot of times it registers as a touch instead. He is getting a little better with practice though.
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