I am not blind but i want to understand(self.Blind)
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[deleted] [OP]14 points5y ago
I don’t think that a temporary experience of visual impairment gives an accurate portrayal of another person’s point of view. Sudden temporary impairment might simulate some of the worst symptoms of sudden onset blindness such as disorientation, fear, panic etc. But you will know its only temporary, and yet will not experience later acceptance, confidence, and security that other visually impaired people gain.
Amonwilde4 points5y ago
I agree with this. These devices exist, but I think they're of relatively limited utility. Not only does low vision present itself differently in different people, but a short-term experience of low vision in a controlled environment probably isn't going to help you understand a low vision person.
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ilivetofly2 points5y ago
This. In one of my classes we did something like this and the teacher had our guides silently walk away from us and say nothing while we had blindfolds on.
It was disorientating and all that and was a way to describe how important a tool a guide can be and how abandoned you can feel without them.
I never really liked the exercise because surely someone who is totally blindfold on blind and who isn't new to their condition will have a lot more self confidence and tools at their disposal then a bunch of kids who have had the blindfold on for 15min. It made the point but it wasn't the best. I think more insight would have been gained from teaching us how to use a cane or an intro to braille.
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I don’t think it would give an accurate picture of “level of difficulty”, things are only difficult until you master them. I don’t know that deliberately impairing your own sight would be as useful as asking visually impaired people what they experience. That being said, I know state blindness organizations require their sighted counselors and teachers to attend 6 weeks of a residential independence/vocational program prior to employment working with the blind. During the main part of the day they have to wear sleep shades to block light and go to classes in orientation and mobility, shop, cooking, technology, braille, etc. I guess it gives them a better understanding of what their clients experience.
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gracefulltree7 points5y ago
As someone with low vision who spent 5 years on the edge of legal blindness before finally being declared, followed by years of loss of vision off and on, I appreciate your desire to understand, but I don’t think anything temporary will give you anything but a tip of the iceberg experience.
Being blind is a 24/7 thing. We eat, sleep and live with it. We go to work, raise families. Something that pissed me off about being blind ten years ago can be a non-issue now. Or it can still bother me every time I leave the house.
Plus, my blindness isn’t like anyone else’s. My diagnoses might be the same, but I have my strengths and challenges, and they’re different than someone else’s.
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gracefulltree4 points5y ago
People touching me without warning. People leaving the room without telling me. People talking to my spouse about my wants/needs when I’m right there! People assuming what I can/can’t see without asking. People thinking of me as a hero for leaving the house and having a job. People thinking I need far more help than I do. But not asking what I might need.
Basically, it’s better to ask and sound like you know nothing than to assume and insult.
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itisisidneyfeldman4 points5y ago
The empathy and curiosity in your question is great; the concern would be that you would project your temporary blindness onto others who have it permanently: "I felt helpless and disoriented, so imagine how awful someone must feel who is blind all the time!" For this reason, some blindness advocates are against this practice as it risks misrepresenting the community, and /u/Uatu71 is right to advise a lot of caution in equating blindfolds or special glasses with the lived experience of visual impairment.
From a neuroscientific perspective, people who have been blind for a long time don't just have more practice in getting around without vision. Their brains are often adapted to process sounds and touch in ways that brief deprivation can't duplicate. (Abstract example: What we call dark is the absence of vision; it might not even make sense to say that blindfolding yourself gives you the same basic sensory experience as someone who has never seen.)
Having said all that, I think the general experience of relying on your nonvisual senses is actually pretty valuable! Just bear in mind the many caveats about considering it a mile walked in a blind person's shoes.
Low-effort start: It's a little janky, but if you can get past the nagging popup messages, an organization called See Now takes you to any Google Street View, but filtered through one of three reasonably rendered possible visual disorders (adjustable in severity): https://simulator.seenow.org/
Edit: another low- to medium effort option is not necessarily blinding yourself, but getting used to using your phone's accessibility features. Got an iPhone? Turn on VoiceOver and see how quickly you can use it without ever turning on the screen, and how high you can crank your text-to-speech speed. That will familiarize you with an aspect of many blind folks' everyday interaction with the world.
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OutWestTexas2 points5y ago
Molly Burke has a video of these glasses on YouTube and people wearing them.
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