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Help me improve my cane technique (self.Blind)
submitted by GoBlindOrGoHome
After spending several months with an ID cane I finally had orientation mobility training with a specialist. Got myself a beautiful 52 incher with a jumbo roller tip by Ambutech.

While the long cane in and of itself helps a lot with traffic and navigating, I feel my pace is severely inhibited by it. Moving the cane back and forth is so slow, and I have some pain from the grip and weight that I'm not used to.

I enjoy walking quite fast, so I'd like to find a more comfortable way to use my cane or a more effective tip for navigating quickly.

I was told to hold the cane with my index finger on the flat side of the golf handle with my arm in a position like I'm about to shake hands. I'm told the best swing range is between 10 and 2.

Do you have any tips or recommendations? Is it just a matter of practice? Thanks for your advice!
AchooCashew 6 points 4y ago
How tall are you? I ordered another cane at 52" and am worried it's going to be too short (I *think* I measured my old cane at 48-50 or so, but I'm nervous I measured wrong).

If you like to walk fast, a longer cane is going to be your friend. Of course, speed comes with time and skill. You might have to slow down a little to get a good technique down before being able to walk safely at your preferred pace. The type of tip will affect weight (ceramic, pencil, and metal glide tips tend to be the lightest), and canes can be made of lighter materials if the weight is really holding you back.

I find that the lighter the tip, the speedier I can be with either constant contact or two-point touch.

All in all, the biggest thing is probably going to be time and slogging through the adjustment period. Like scales on an instrument - it might be slow at first, but eventually you can zip up and down the notes in a flash.
GoBlindOrGoHome [OP] 2 points 4y ago
I'm 176 centimeters or around five feet, nine and a half inches. Love that music analogy, very motivating to practice!
KillerLag 8 points 4y ago
52 or 54 inches is good for your height. Depending on your speed and such. Some instructors prefer the clients start with a longer cane until they get comfortable with scanning with it, so it doesn't go too far to the sides. Others prefer to start off slightly longer (they can scan more per sweep), but it can gets unwieldly.

You mentioned pain from the grip. Don't grip it extremely tightly, that puts more stress than you need. A relaxed grip should be sufficient.

If you aren't used to the weight, I usually recommend practice scanning while watching TV or something. That lets you do it without focusing on it. I usually suggest starting off with the commercial breaks, and as you get stronger, switch to doing it during the shows.

Also, a big one... don't put your hand into the elastic strap. It seems convenient, but it's a safety issue. If your cane is hit by a car and gets tangled up in it, the elastic strap will drag you along with it. If you are holding it in your hand and a car hits the cane, it would just take the cane out of your hands.


Coloratura1987 5 points 4y ago
So some people will definitely balk at this, but the NFB canes totally changed my traveling.

If you're not familiar, the National Federation of the Blind canes are made from either carbon fiber or fiber glass. Instead of being the standard black, white, and red, they are all white from handle to tip.

Additionally, the tips are made from chrome, so they won't glide quite the same way. Instead of sweeping it from side to side, you use what's called the open palm technique. That's gonna be very hard to describe via text, but I'll try.

Basically, you're gonna hold your cane in the palm of your hand with your palm facing the ceiling. Then, you'll move your cane from side to side by opening and closing your hand. This is supposed to reduce the strain on your wrists, preventing fun things like carpel tunnel. It's very similar to the two-point touch technique, and you can definitely use that one if the open palm feels too strange to you at first.

I like the NFB canes because they're just a solid white and don't look so much like a medical device. They're also the lightest canes I've ever used, and since I've switched, I am never going back.

If you're interested in trying one, you can get a rigid, i.e. non-folding cane for free $1.

If you find you like them, NFB also sells a folding cane and a telescopic one, too. The telescopic ones are great when you have to open your cane on a crowded bus or train.

I hope that helps.
GoBlindOrGoHome [OP] 2 points 4y ago
I really appreciate that advice and description. I'm Canadian, so I'm not eligible for NFB support. I'll be trying to find a similar style of cane in Canada, thank you!
KillerLag 3 points 4y ago
CNIB in Canada does sell that style of cane, although it's very rare (in 9 years of being an O&M instructor, I've only known two people to use that type). They often aren't used much outdoors, fibreglass can't take a beating like aluminum or graphite cane. Also, because they are telescopic, a solid hit in the front often collapses the first joint of the cane.

Here is a link if you are interested. Unfortunately, they are also significantly more expensive than Ambutech aluminum canes.

http://shop.cnib.ca/ProductDetail/can3242025539
-shacklebolt- 1 points 4y ago
The telescoping cane is only one style of NFB cane. They also have folding and several rigid types of canes.

I've met quite a lot of people in the US who use an NFB carbon fiber or fiberglass cane as their primary. They do break differently (and can't be bent back into shape like aluminum) but they're definitely not meant for light duty only.

https://nfb.org/independence-market will ship internationally, but postage may be prohibitive. The canes themselves range from $10 to $45, and metal tips are $2.

Keep in mind that metal tips aren't especially suited to constant contact, and here in the US generally people will use tapping based methods such as two point touch with them.

If cane weight is an issue, there's a couple of other options worth asking your O&M instructor about:

- The jumbo roller is heavy. Switching to another style of tip suitable for constant contact might help. I'm pretty sure the marshmallow roller is lighter, and certain the ceramic tip is.

- If you have a fiberglass or aluminum cane, Ambutech's regular graphite is lighter weight.

- Ambutech makes a "slim line" graphite cane that is significantly lighter than their standard graphite cane. It is meant as a "light duty" mobility cane, and is definitely not as durable as other cane models. Some people *do* use these as their primary canes, but their suitability highly depends on your use. Definitely check with an instructor first.
KillerLag 1 points 4y ago
Interesting... I happened to have one a NFB carbon fiber cane on my bookshelf, so I pulled it out to give it a quick try, and it definitely collapses on a strike against anything substantial.

Then I looked a bit closer, and thought the logo looked a bit.... dated. (The logo is a rectangle, left half dark blue, right side light blue, with white NFB mostly on the left side). So I checked Google, and it doesn't look anything like the current NFB logo (6 human shapes with canes, arranged in a flower-like pattern). And the only other logo has a multi-coloured person with a white cane, and NFB next to it. I'm curious if the cane I have it a really old, outdated model. I just checked the CNIB website (the store I got it from) and the cane looks significantly different, with different joints and a black and white person holding a cane.

The cane I have does seem to be a proper NFB cane, it has the correct phone number... But the address is listed as 1800 Johnson Street, as opposed to their new address of 200 East Wells Street. I suspect I have an old one. (Now I need to sneak into the store to try the new one!)
Terry_Pie 4 points 4y ago
What I found hard at first was getting used to my arms needing to swing counter to the way they would walking without a cane.

Say you, like me, are right handed. When you push your right leg forward, you want it to push your right arm and cane forward to sweep out to the left. When your left leg goes forward, your cane is pushed back to sweep right while your right arm is kept more or less in line with your leg.

At first it is a conscious thing, you focus on a step forward pushing your cane forward. Just walk around focusing on that rhythm. The more you do it though the better you'll get and the more it'll become second nature. I'm a very fast walker and can keep rhythm with my pace now while when I started I could hardly keep rhythm even if I slowed considerably!

The most important thing is to keep practicing.
GoBlindOrGoHome [OP] 1 points 4y ago
I was taught to keep my right arm stationary and work the cane with the wrist, would you say that's atypical or wrong based on what you've learned?
pokersnek 5 points 4y ago
That is the “proper” way an O&M specialist will teach you. Cane grip in front at midline (belly button or belt buckle) and hold the cane like you’re gonna give it a hand shake.

I’m an O&M specialist. I’m gonna tell you a secret. There’s an adaptation for everything.
Terry_Pie 1 points 4y ago
No, I don't think so. The movement I am talking about is very minor, most of the work is in your wrist. It's more that the arm is always extended and you're shifting the cane with your gait. It's hard to describe really.
Laser_Lens_4 2 points 4y ago
I imagine you already have the basic movements and foot coordination down since you did mobility training.

If you want to do constant contact then you might want to get a graphite came from Revolution. The tip isn't designed to be removed but they are lighter. The joints don't have the aluminium flanges that the Ambutech canes have. You can also order a cane from either company with a cork handle to reduce weight even more.

Right now I'm using a 56" Ambutech with a plastic marshmallow tip for mostly two-point touch. I was using the roller tip until a construction fence swallowed it one day (going tipless even for a few minutes suck)_.

IMO the Ambutech has too much mass to comfortably do constant contact with a roller. Plus the tip will catch on every. single, crack.

I want to find the dude who put cracks in sidewalks and punch them. Yes I know those are expansion joints, but still.

I sized mine up by measuring up to the base of my armpit. That's how my instructor showed me to do it but I imagine something longer would help for going fast.
GoBlindOrGoHome [OP] 2 points 4y ago
You must be tall! I used the same method to find my size.

I wasn't offered instruction in two-point touch, only constant contact, so I don't know when I'll have a chance to ask for help with that to see if the other method is less strenuous.

How did you manage to keep going after you lost a tip? Did it pull out far enough for the guard to stop the elastic from getting pulled in?
bigblindmax 1 points 4y ago
I would see about getting trained for two-point touch and buying pencil tips do your cane. It takes practice to get the rhythm and grip down but it’s lighter, quicker and IMO gives you more information than a roller.

A lot of blind associations will set people up with roller tips because they have a shallower learning curve and doesn’t catch as much, but there are better tools for the job.

Also, some O&M instructors swear by the “hand in front” method, but I’ve had no issues keeping my hand at my side and adjusting how far I sweep in either direction accordingly. It lets me walk more naturally and keeps me from catching a jab to the gut when my cane gets caught on something.

GoBlindOrGoHome [OP] 2 points 4y ago
I've improved a lot in just the last couple of days! My training was done in a carpeted room and on a sidewalk. I found that most improvement came on the smooth surface of the grocery store!
ZippyTWP 1 points 4y ago
I use a 54" cane, and I'm 6'.

I tried longer, but it's so unwieldy. At first, I went slow just trying to get the cadence down, but it's become a lot easier to walk faster with better tapping (I two tap), and the shorter cane doesn't make me feel like I need to start singing sea chanties because I'm off to harpoon a whale.

I've been unfortunate because I can't get O&M training right now in my area, so I've had to read and find videos to try and apply it. Blind people have to have rhythm to use a cane properly, which you'll develop fast. Counting out steps helped me at first. I'm still sighted, so I REALLY had to get used to not watching my feet, which is what I've had to do for years because my FOV is so small.

Practice, practice, practice. Have someone set up an obstacle course for you (it really helped me) and try to navigate it until you really get a feel for what your cane feels like against thgs. Walk with it every day, even if it's just along a trail in the park.

I've found as I've gotten used to it I can more effectively use my hearing because I'm not stressed out about constantly shifting my gaze to try and see what's around me, which wasn't very effective anyway.

You'll get it faster than you think. Especially because of the mobility you'll gain, you'll have a ton of incentive to get it right.
DancinBaby 1 points 4y ago
I have mobility issues and therefore I do not swing the cane from side to side all the time. I do it only when in unfamiliar place or in a large crowd. That saves my arm strength somewhat. I have the cane in front of me and the tip is the biggest rolling ball they got because it does not get stuck on surfaces and trip me over.

Probably not the best advice for everyone but my tendency to get spasms does not allow for wife movement of the cane at all times. Also muscles get used to new movement gradually so take it easy in the beginning and good luck on your trips with the cane!
pokersnek 1 points 4y ago
O&M specialist again.

I’m about 5 foot 10 inches. I prefer a cane at about 56 to 60 inches long. That’s just to match my stride though. I walk slower with a cane though. I tell my students that the cane should reach their armpit. Some say the bottom of the breast bone, but that’s really short for me. Other camps like the NFB say it should go up to your chin or your earlobe. It’s really personal preference at that point.

I prefer really light weight canes because I have wrist issues. I like graphite or fiberglass. Choose your material wisely. Fiberglass will shatter in cold weather. Also, that jumbo roller really adds weight to the cane. Try a smaller tip like the regular roller or a basic pencil or marshmallow tip. I tend to use a touch and slide technique to stick with the shoreline very often.

Disclaimer: I don’t want you to start challenging your instructor because I’m giving advice. Figure out what you prefer and ask them for advice. Come up with a solution together, because this training is all about you.
GoBlindOrGoHome [OP] 2 points 4y ago
I don't have a dedicated instructor in my region, I probably won't see the one I saw recently again, she was here on loan. I'm really eager to develop my technique so I can pass a mobility evaluation for guide dog applications.
Would you say there's many drawbacks to graphite?
pokersnek 1 points 4y ago
Revolution canes have the cane shaft and the joint made of graphite. When you unfold the cane, the joints snap in to place. Over time, this wears out the joint and it becomes wobbly.

Ambutech graphite canes have the joints made of aluminum. When the cane gets hit with a big enough impact, the joints can bend. Also, sometimes the joints stick making it really hard to fold.

Graphite itself is a great material. It’s strong. It has give to it so it will bend upon impact and go back to its original form. It’s also pretty light weight.
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