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Crowdsourced Accessibility Test Service (CATS) - An Opportunity to Help Others (self.Blind)
submitted by HCLAmerica
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LanceThunder 8 points 4y ago
this is a great idea. if it was run as a non-profit organization i would strongly support it but...
> we need *volunteers*
you need to *hire* paid testers. by asking for volunteers to do work you are profiting from you are reinforcing the idea that a disabled person's efforts has no value.
> we need *volunteers*
you need to *hire* paid testers. by asking for volunteers to do work you are profiting from you are reinforcing the idea that a disabled person's efforts has no value.
HCLAmerica [OP] -2 points 4y ago
These are volunteers but they are compensated by Amazon gift codes which will be sent to an email address of their choice once they have completed the survey which normally takes 20 - 30 minutes.
LanceThunder 4 points 4y ago
> Crowdsourced Accessibility Test Service
sounds like you are looking to build an entire service off the labour of disabled people. would you do your job if you were compensated in amazon gift cards?
sounds like you are looking to build an entire service off the labour of disabled people. would you do your job if you were compensated in amazon gift cards?
HCLAmerica [OP] -2 points 4y ago
(Also responding to /u/-shacklebolt-)
To be clear, this a crowdsourced service we are thinking of developing. Like all crowdsourced services, people are not hired, but they are compensated for their efforts, which are generally a one-off engagement. As with all crowdsourced participants, the usual compensation is a gift card such as an Amazon or a Visa gift card.
While we have disabled testers, their work is very focused. Instead, we want to work with people and organizations outside of our company that can give us real world and wider ranging responses.
To be clear, this a crowdsourced service we are thinking of developing. Like all crowdsourced services, people are not hired, but they are compensated for their efforts, which are generally a one-off engagement. As with all crowdsourced participants, the usual compensation is a gift card such as an Amazon or a Visa gift card.
While we have disabled testers, their work is very focused. Instead, we want to work with people and organizations outside of our company that can give us real world and wider ranging responses.
preiman790 3 points 4y ago
No you want to replace your testers and the comunity of people who nake their livings off accessibility testing, replacing real wages with gift cards and turning around and selling our work to the people who would have otherwise actually payed us.
-shacklebolt- 2 points 4y ago
So you want accessibility testers, who would ordinarily be paid actual money as employees or contractors, to instead accept *gift cards* of an unspecified amount for their work?
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quanin 5 points 4y ago
You need me a hell of a lot more than I need you. Therefore, let's talk dollars, not gift cards. specifically, my rate is $40 per hour, with a 2 hour minimum. If that's too much, then this so-called proof of concept isn't too awful important.
GoneVision 4 points 4y ago
So, this sounds like a good idea; however, like the other posters, I have some reservations. How much time are you requesting for tests, how will you assess the level of your testers expertise, and how much in the form of compensation via Amazon gift cards, will you be offering? I’m A senior level accessibility tester and consultantwith a major US government agency, and I bring in about 90 K A year. I hope you’re planning to offer compensation that would be equal to a tester’s level of experience in the industry. Anything else, is quite frankly insulting. So just to give you a ballpark, you’re talking between 40 and $50 for every hour of time and individual Spence testing. If that’s the plan, I’m down, if not you’re going to have to find some people who like to work for peanuts.
impablomations 5 points 4y ago
I looked up the company and it's a multi billion dollar enterprise.
Somehow I doubt the service they sell to corporate clients will be payable in amazon gift cards.
This is just taking advantage of people while they reap the rewards.
Somehow I doubt the service they sell to corporate clients will be payable in amazon gift cards.
This is just taking advantage of people while they reap the rewards.
LanceThunder 2 points 4y ago
is your company looking for testers?
HCLAmerica [OP] 0 points 4y ago
There is only one test and it takes approximately 20 - 30 minutes to complete. The gift codes are $25 each.
derrekjthompson 3 points 4y ago
There were things I was going to say after reading this post, but it appears from the comments that they've already been said. Not sure why a for-profit company would expect volunteers. Also, even with crowdsourced things like Fivr and Uber and such, the people still get paid cash. This just seems like exploitation to me and I hope they don't get enough people to go for this bad deal.
bright_side1977 3 points 4y ago
According to your website you have an office in Sunnyvale, CA. There’s an active Tech Accessibility community in the SF Bay Area. There are companies that do paid accessibility testing. Or AT LEADT say you are looking for Beta testers, not ‘giving folks the option to test...’
People don’t need a special offer from a $8B company to work for free.
People don’t need a special offer from a $8B company to work for free.
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