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My Idea For An App (self.Blind)
submitted by derrekjthompson
I know these types of posts can get annoying, but I'm just another blind individual not some fledgling start-up founder or college kid so please hear me out. I have an idea for an app that I think would be useful to me and other blind people. I don't know how to code so I probably won't ever make it myself but I want to see what other blind people think about it. So I was thinking it'd be cool if there was an app that could use your phone to find out the address of your current location and when your going out to eat it could quickly bring up the menu for the restaurant your at. It seems like a lot of restaurants don't have braille menus but have their menu online. However googling around for the menu on your phone while your out to eat is kind of a pain. Do you think you would use such an app?
fastfinge 8 points 4y ago
Personally, I'd rather this was built into blindsquare or one of the other navigation apps. Not only because I'm already using those, so it's one less app to manage, but also because when I'm in a strange city, looking for a place to eat, it would be cool if the gps app I already use could tell me about all of the places it already had the menu for. That way I'd never wind up going into a place, googling for the menu, realizing I can't find it, and then being stuck asking the server for help.
codeofdusk 3 points 4y ago
Blindsquare does this already.
derrekjthompson [OP] 3 points 4y ago
I've never used Blindsquare but to my knowledge they don't include restaurant menus, and the other comment that mentions Blindsquare in this thread makes it sound like they don't currently provide them. But like I said I don't use Blindsquare myself so I don't really know if they do or not.
fastfinge 1 points 4y ago
Sort of. But it only seems to list major chains. At least in Canada.
derrekjthompson [OP] 3 points 4y ago
This is a good point.
MakihikiMalahini-who 3 points 4y ago
I vaguely remember seeing that in Google Maps. Not sure if it still exists / works well.
KillerLag 5 points 4y ago
Google maps definitely has that. However, it is just a URL link to the website of the menu. If it is arrange in an inaccessible way, then it wouldn't read.
tshannon0 3 points 4y ago
Google Maps usually has a link directly to the menu when available. It's not always there though, and when it is it's often a PDF or image that won't work with a screen reader.

From a very cursory look, it doesn't seem like the menu data is available in Google's Places API, also they charge for use of that API even if it was. They do have a feature that tries to work out what business you might be in based on location and time of day etc, that could be useful.

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arond3 3 points 4y ago
As a developper to do this we will request two things : first restaurant website adress must be the url for there site. Secondly their menu must be in a normalized format that we can read.
derrekjthompson [OP] 1 points 4y ago
That could make it tricky. Thanks for a developers perspective on this.
WhiteCaneGamer 2 points 4y ago
If an existing company, for example, JustEat in the UK, who already had a database of restaurants, their locations and their menus, had an API, I couldn't see this being a difficult app to create, in theory. (JustEat is a company that mainly focuses on takeaway / takeout but you get the idea) .


This is the only viable solution to the problem, that I can think of, short of compelling restaurants, world wide, to publish their menus in an agreed format, or a mammoth, ongoing, data gathering effort by the app developer, neither of which are likely or viable.


It's an interesting idea though, maybe I'm wrong, maybe there's another way around it.
derrekjthompson [OP] 1 points 4y ago
The problem with that is that take out menus are usually different when it comes to items available and sometimes also the price.
WhiteCaneGamer 1 points 4y ago
True. I can't think of other types of companies that might have already done the donkey work (collating all the menu data). Back to the drawing board.
bright_side1977 2 points 4y ago
Hi. I worked on an app, EyeMenu, that would do exactly this. We never launched the app. Message me if you want more info.
Prefect316 1 points 4y ago
It would be great to integrate this into a navigation app. Check out Almenus. It used to feature menus for restaurants and I would use it often, but it doesn't seem like it's updated much these days.
wilcjames 1 points 4y ago
Forsquare already does this. You may have to do a little digging, but it is worth it.
intrepidia 1 points 4y ago
So I know a fellow who has had a prototype coded up to do exactly this. I did test the prototype and was largely unimpressed with the concept. Issues include the restaurant needing to incorporate some data schema for structuring menu data (I understand there's one out there but it's poorly adopted). This would have to be incorporated so that menu changes are updated in parallel. Who hasn't had a braille menu handed to them that was out of date?

Other issues would be having enuff data to be populated so it's meaningful to the user. Would you get stuck going to the corporate chain that implemented it when that little family run place down the block would have a better experience?

I’d say if independent, just use one of the many phone OCR apps, look up the website / PDF or ask your server

Here's a fun little article on one fellow who describes his sensory consulting practice targeting restaurants and other public venues

https://thetakeout.com/how-restaurants-can-make-dining-seamless-for-blind-peop-1823739501
derrekjthompson [OP] 1 points 4y ago
Maybe it's just me but I can never get a decent scan, let alone a fast one, with those Ocr apps like Seeing AI or KNFB Reader.
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