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What day go day issues could be made better as a project? (self.Blind)
submitted by LegionCube
I'm part of a group trying to help blind/impaired users.
We have knowledge in mechanical and electrical engineering, but we mainly lack knowing the day to day issues blind/visually impaired users have. We would like to know what issues you have that you would like solved

One example we thought about was a camera and earpiece that read out signposts or building names to users
We then we found issues with the idea such as the user would have to be facing the sign in the first place for the device to be useful and they would likey already have an understanding of were they were/going and not have a need for signage

Any ideas welcome
Thank you
brimstone_tea 5 points 4y ago
A device telling me when there are actually people near me (like maybe beeping faster the nearer I get) because often I just have to call "is there anyone ?" Into the void and it feels pretty awkward. Would be a great way of finding service staff, too. maybe working with body heat?
LegionCube [OP] 2 points 4y ago
We did have a think about a system that would say when you were near an object e.g a person
The problem we ran into was when the user went down into a closed space like a lift or narrow corridor as it would constantly 'beep'
But if you think this is worth taking another look at that would be great input thank you

Out of I treat what range would you say this device should work for? A meter around the user? Or 2 or 3 or more?
Amonwilde 2 points 4y ago
What would the advantage of a meter or two be over a cane?
LegionCube [OP] 1 points 4y ago
That's what I'm trying to understand, what range would be useful for someone visually Impared/blind?
A range of about 2 meters is similar to a cane? do you think it would be better to have something that just replaces the cane?
Would you prefer a 4 meter range? But this would pickup things in a building or enclosed space alot morw

Something adjustable?
But then how would the user (you) be able to set the distance without knowing if you are near an object or not?

Amonwilde 3 points 4y ago
This is an underexplored area, but something people have tried. There are commercial products that already do this, in fact I own one and it's not that great. It buzzes when objects get within 6 m or so. What might be helpful is something more grandular, that varies the buzz based on proximity so you'd know how close stuff is, and especially if it was a cone and not a straight line. But that would actually be a precision device and not a buzzer attached to some lidar. In general blind people will tell you that anything trying to replace or add to the cane is not worth it, making the cane heavier is a no go as it's kind of already too heavy to start with for most and it actually works well for its intended purpose, almost certainly better than a gizmo.

I've been thinking of writing a white paper on what people need to know to contribute to technology for the blind. It feels like so many different teams are trying the exact same things and constantly reinventing the wheel.
brimstone_tea 1 points 4y ago
What I was thinking of is a device especially for finding people. Maybe sensing body heat? Because I consider it really rude to run into them with your cane. It doesnt work in big crowds of course, so then you would have to turn it off. But my thought was when I need Help (for example at a train station or in a Shop) I wouldnt have to call until somebody answers. Also I hate it when somebody is sitting on a bench already and I don't realize that. I know theres this laser cane already for sensing objects, but for all I have heard it doesnt work really well (and is Impossible to use in wind, rain, snow...,)
fuffyballofanxiety 2 points 4y ago
on name tags or lanyards that staff wear there could be some kind of metal or device that interacts with a device on the user. the device would indicate to the user which direction to go or something. Im not very experienced with this kind of thing, so I dont know if something like this already exists or if it would even work
LegionCube [OP] 1 points 4y ago
We thought about using RFID tags on specific objects in a house (like green jacket, sugar jar, etc) but we then assumed that blind users would have a good memory location/be able to easily identify there own objects around the house. So we decided to go in a diffrent direction
(do you think there is still a need for this tho? It would be useful to know!)
fuffyballofanxiety 1 points 4y ago
it might be, yeah. Idk much about this, as said before but the idea of it could possibly really help some people!
LegionCube [OP] 1 points 4y ago
Thanks!
I'll get the group to re look at it then! Our main issue is we don't know what needs people have
But what you said is more than doable within a home environment
Thank you!
Amonwilde 1 points 4y ago
People aren't going to wear specific weird lanyards.
fuffyballofanxiety 1 points 4y ago
Idk if its just a thing where I live, but most shop employees wear a lanyard or tag, so even if they dont wear uniform, you can still tell theyre staff
Amonwilde 2 points 4y ago
Yes, but they're just pieces of plastic. Asking people to put a standardized RFID or QR code on their lanyards is a serious problem of coordination. If we could manage that there are way more important problems to tackle first. I just don't see it happening.
saharacanuck 4 points 4y ago
Hey, sounds like a good idea. You should check out some of the devices that already exist. Checkout Orcam for example. It’s really expensive, but seems to be effective in reading things.

Personally , I find that a lot of tech is unaffordable. Whether it’s the esight, sight+ or orcam.

If you want something that’s not day to day. VI tennis needs new tennis balls that last longer, work for different sight categories and have more bounce while still are audible.
brimstone_tea 2 points 4y ago
I have the Orcam and Love it!! (Where I live it's covered by Public health) but I think it's mostly for people who still have some vision left because you have to point exactly at what it should read to you
saharacanuck 1 points 4y ago
Awesome! That’s really cool. Which country do you live in?
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