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Domino's Pizza has been told its website and app must be made fully accessible to blind people, after losing a legal case in the US. (bbc.com)
submitted by -shacklebolt-
-shacklebolt- [OP] 26 points 4y ago
Comments on this article elsewhere: sighted people discovering that blind people can use the internet, then insisting we're unreasonable to expect businesses to be accessible.
multi-instrumental -9 points 4y ago
There's definitely an unreasonable aspect to it (at times), but a company like Domino's should've really taken the initiative.
I'm always torn on "accessibility laws" because they often go *way* overboard.
I'm always torn on "accessibility laws" because they often go *way* overboard.
-shacklebolt- [OP] 24 points 4y ago
The narrative that the ADA "goes way overboard" because a very small minority of disabled people file frivilous lawsuits is frankly ridiculous, and it only serves to benefit companies that want to save money by painting disabled people as either angry and litigious or as idiots manipulated by money-hungry attorneys.
https://dralegal.org/cases/ has just a sample of the many instances where legal action opened the door to equal access. Major businesses, streaming services and theaters, ride share companies, departments of education, correctional institutions, universities, healthcare organizations, government agencies...
Disabled people's lives in the US are made immeasurably better by the ADA. It's an absolute fantasy to believe that as blind people (or people with other disabilities) we'd have anywhere near the level of equal access we have today without a legal mandate and some venue for enforcement.
https://dralegal.org/cases/ has just a sample of the many instances where legal action opened the door to equal access. Major businesses, streaming services and theaters, ride share companies, departments of education, correctional institutions, universities, healthcare organizations, government agencies...
Disabled people's lives in the US are made immeasurably better by the ADA. It's an absolute fantasy to believe that as blind people (or people with other disabilities) we'd have anywhere near the level of equal access we have today without a legal mandate and some venue for enforcement.
liquidDinner 7 points 4y ago
There are as many visually impaired internet users in the USA as there are total internet users in Canada.
That small percentage is a pretty significant number of people if anybody bothered to think about it for half a minute.
That small percentage is a pretty significant number of people if anybody bothered to think about it for half a minute.
saharacanuck 1 points 4y ago
Woah! What’s the number in the US?
Drunken_Idaho 6 points 4y ago
I've always felt like the ADA was a little overreaching, but this is a really good post. I never thought about it in those terms, but it is totally true that lazy companies and organizations who don't want to even try for accessibility are the only ones who benefit from this portrayal of disabled people as being manipulated by money hungry lawyers.
While I do know some disabled people who are law suit happy, I would absolutely agree we're better off with the ADA than without it.
While I do know some disabled people who are law suit happy, I would absolutely agree we're better off with the ADA than without it.
saharacanuck 7 points 4y ago
A lot of companies approach accessibility as an afterthought as opposed to something that’s built in. They try to retroactively make things accessible which never works. Building it in from the start makes it so much easier whether it’s physical or digital.
rkingett 2 points 4y ago
I agree with you one million percent!
Laser_Lens_4 6 points 4y ago
To be fair it is pretty damn annoying when you go to a website and all you can hear are unlabeled links and images that have info hashes for their alt attribute
multi-instrumental 0 points 4y ago
I completely agree, I wasn't arguing "against" the laws or the concept of reasonable accessibility laws. I just think that they frequently take it a bit too far (on some ways).
I've had to deal with unreasonable ADA laws personally so I guess I've got a bit of a grudge.
Like any other law what is "reasonable" is subjective to an extent.
I've had to deal with unreasonable ADA laws personally so I guess I've got a bit of a grudge.
Like any other law what is "reasonable" is subjective to an extent.
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Badassmotherfuckerer 7 points 4y ago
Now if only Discord could finally make their app accessible.
rkingett 3 points 4y ago
They are required to, because of the CVAA. It would be a boom to podcasters and otherwise, too! But, discord is moving incredibly slow on this matter so doubt it will happen any time soon. I was contemplating getting the FCC involved, since now, game developers are thinking about using their service, but oh man oh man! This is gonna be rough if either Discord doesn't get a move on, or, an accessible alternative is created soon.
Now that the CVAA says games have to have accessible communications, every developer is outright panicking when they had a waiver since 2012.
Now that the CVAA says games have to have accessible communications, every developer is outright panicking when they had a waiver since 2012.
Orinks 1 points 4y ago
Discord for the most part is accessible. I get around it okay. There's still some stuff to be labeled on it.
silverhythm 3 points 4y ago
Always good to see accessibility get a win, but I kinda had to double take because I use Dominoes iOS app all the time and, while I might label a few things better and have some more proactive VO feedback if I was developing it, I never couldn’t get the pie I wanted. I’ve ordered through the website too. Whatever wasn’t functional is hopefully fixed up real soon.
Frost-on-the-Willow 2 points 4y ago
This is great, dominos is my favorite pizza place.
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