What has been your experience with services that are supposed to “help” you.(self.Blind)
submitted by baseballdude12
Whether you are completely blind or simply visually impaired I’m curious as to what your experiences have been. In my experience with these agencies / services - they’ve all been extremely underwhelming and unhelpful.
Reply with Your State/Country: Service(s) Used: Experience / What what they helped you with: What they didn’t / what you wish they helped you with:
InsomniaDoodles9 points4y ago
I received exceptional help from the Indiana Low Vision Center. My advocate was a lady named Melissa Watts. She was so attentive and truly cared that I received help. She was courteous and understanding of my inability to drive, and came to my home for our meetings. She assessed what services would be helpful to me and obtained free materials and tools to assist me in daily life. Her daughter was one of my Facebook friends, so she and I connected there as well. She followed my posts, and frequently used those posts to learn what needs might not be met, and contacted me via messenger to suggest things that might help. When I got an amazon echo, she commented on my post about it and asked me to let her know how much it was able to assist me in daily tasks, as she was interested in pushing the low vision center to start providing them to people who could use them.
She was an absolutely incredible woman who put her heart and soul into her work, even though her own chronic illness often made life hard on her.
She passed away a while back, and my heart ached when I saw the news.
She was an amazing advocate. ❤️
baseballdude12 [OP]1 points4y ago
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bscross324 points4y ago
I'm from York PA. This one is weird due to how interweaved it is. OVR has been most unhelpful to me. They don't want to do anything unless I have a job except to pay for an agency to help. It is called AHEDD, and they are good. However, when we worked at it for a while, with limited success, OVR cut their funding. They also didn't want to get me the equipment Id need to do the job I was hired for, So imagine how successful I was going into interviews like sure, I can do this job, but I can't show you that I can, and not only that, but I can't start for 2 weeks because that's how long their ordering process takes.
baseballdude12 [OP]1 points4y ago
Unbelievable how useless they are sometimes
psychgamer20143 points4y ago
I’m from Virginia and have been working with the DBVI using their vocational rehab. The first counselor I had was a joke and a narcissist, so I got almost no help with schooling. The first one got fired for being mentally unfit to hold down the position of being a counselor. My second counselor has been amazing and has provided funding for everything.
As a whole, the state has been a pain to work with. They keep an approved list of majors for blind/VI students that we have to choose from. For example, I wasn’t permitted to double major in philosophy like I wanted.
Quineg3 points4y ago
Wow, they actually have a list of approved majors? I can't even imagine how upset I would have been had I been in your shoes.
psychgamer20142 points4y ago
Yes, they have a list of approved majors and now approved career fields. When I tried to pursue clinical psychology, we found out that the state has insane licensing requirements. Essentially, if your vision is 20/40 or less (the cut off for driving) or you have any other major medical issues, the odds of getting licensed in a healthcare profession here are slim at best.
Prior to my forced career switch, I looked into nursing school to become a nurse practitioner. They require: 1) a license, 2) car ownership with no remaining payments, nor a leased car, and 3) a monthly maintenance report signed by a certified/licensed mechanic.
The school system I’m planning on working for wants me to get licensed and certified as a behavior analyst and EMT on top of being a licensed special education teacher so that I’ll actually know what I’m doing (long story short: there was an incident and they want more highly qualified special education teachers). I’ve been rejected by all 40 clinics in the area for supervision hours, so now they’re trying to figure out where they’re going to place me.
Sorry for the rant; it’s just so frustrating. On the bright side, I got an MS in psychology out of the doctorate, which I’m using to teach undergraduate psychology online as an adjunct. I’d love to just eventually teach community college full-time.
HDMILex3 points4y ago
And then they expect you to find a job..when they won't even help you with the education/skills you want/need to attain said job?
And then you wonder why some many blind folk are unemployed. A lot of them just give up looking. Not to mention the fact that disclosing your disability is a double edged sword with the majority of employers.
psychgamer20143 points4y ago
Essentially, yes. I made it halfway through a doctorate in clinical psychology before I had to switch careers due to medical requirements for licensure. Now I’m pursuing special education. Last I checked, the unemployment rate for VI and blind people, at least in my state, is something like 85% - 90%. I’m trying to improve my odds with as many certifications, endorsements, and occupational licenses as I can get. Honestly, teaching was the only job I could find that didn’t legally obligate a license and/or car ownership.
Employment is nearly impossible for disabled people in general. I have a colleague at one of the schools I substitute at that moved here from another state due to her husband’s job. In her previous state, she was a licensed professional counselor (LPC). Upon arriving here, she submitted her application for licensure transfer and they denied her on the basis of being diabetic. Since she was denied, she is now barred from holding down any occupational licenses in the state.
rebel_1341 points4y ago
Oh hey! I live in Virginia too. But I just moved here, so getting services has been an extremely slow process.
matt_may2 points4y ago
All I head from them was about jobs. Low paying, dead end jobs. Losing vision mid career is horrible. You’re forced to listen to bureaucrats that couldn’t do your former job tell you that you need to work at min wage for self respect. Actually, you don’t.
Sight4042 points4y ago
In my experience, there is a coloration between distance from government and help received. Essentially, friends and NGOs are most helpful while the educational 'services' and DVR are big on talk and metaphorically bedridden.
rebel_1341 points4y ago
What if you don’t know anyone? I do agree on NGOs and nonprofits though, I use quite a few of them
Sight4040 points4y ago
Meet people.
rebel_1340 points4y ago
It’s not that easy you know. Some people have social anxiety, and it’s terrifying to them. Some are reluctant because they’re afraid of rejection. So before you oversimplify solutions, consider these factors with some degree of empathy.
WittiePenguin2 points4y ago
I am in Pennsylvania, the services have worked for me here but it depends on the counselor. I had one counselor who was sexist and it sucked! My counselor now is amazing though. And I’m getting everything I need
Fange_Strellow2 points4y ago
My experience has lead me to believe that what you get out of the service is directly related to how much you put in and how much you are willing to put yourself out there. I have found if you expect social services to bend over backwards to provide you every single thing you want and to do exactly what you wish, you were going to be disappointed. People without disabilities don’t get everything they want, so there really is no reason for people with disabilities to expect this either. What you can do is take me support and make the best of it, fully expecting to put in 90% of the effort to make it happen. That’s really the only way to be successful in my experience.
the9thpawn_1 points4y ago
I’m from Canada and here’s something I commented awhile ago on being told to try harder to see.
This attitude is present even and optometrist and those who work with blind people.
As a kid (I’m gen z)’the first few people assigned to me by the school board were focused on getting me to just” try harder” to see using my residual vision. For most of primary school the only equipment I had was an easel so I wouldn’t hurt my neck and a magnifying glass. They also enlarged my worksheets but a lot of times they weren’t large enough or had poor contrast. I also wasn’t allowed to have a desk close enough to the board. I had one teacher who really hated me and would write in small cursive and far away from me. My vision itinerant would also come once every few weeks and make men do mazes and crosswords which are a nightmare for me because of my nystagmus. During that time I got lots of bad headaches due to eye strain and was exhausted after school from seeing (more so than usual). Eventually I ended up getting someone who was actually great and I got my first assistive tech outside of a magnifying glass. This whole deal.of getting blind people to just try harder is harmful psychologically and physically .
A few months ago, I went to an optometrist who specializes nystagmus(in hindsight I was probably referred because she was doing a study on congenital nystagmus) and her first question to me was “Are you excited to get your drivers license?”. When she was testing my vision she told me to try harder and I couldn’t because it was causing me a bad headache but she still didn’t listen. My mom had it and asked her what she was trying to accomplish by getting me to strain my eyes as it doesn’t actually help me see better and the optometrist asked her if she wanted my vision to improve. I couldn’t believe it and the rest of the appointment was just as disastrous https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/9wmq8c/comment/eensl7v?st=JRFCMJP1&sh=d0d6876e
the9thpawn_1 points4y ago
TLDR: The people who’s literal job it was to help visually impaired students where content to do nothing and gaslight students so they didn’t start complaining and teachers/spec Ed people were content to defend those people. Like whenever my vi comes in I get really anxious because they deflect a lot and they say I’m just being over sensitive because of my anxiety/autism. Also when I get my parents involved I just get lectured on having to advocate for more and told that I have a good support system that I should use more but the thing is I am advocating for myself but they only listen when it’s not that much work. There are also times when I’ve been to anxious to go to school because lack of accommodations makes it dangerous for me. I used to get a lot of headaches and eye strain due to being made to rely on my vision and no amount of lettersThe low vision clinic at u Waterloo is great and I learned a lot of things about advocating for myself.
estj3171 points4y ago
I am in southern California. Los Angeles county I work with the pasadena vr office. My counselor is over there, long story. It began great I took forever in school, it slowed for a bit and it’s picking up a little again. Over all the counselor is actually pretty good. I got lucky. I was going to work with another one but that counselor had no want to fun me. I got this one through a friend of mine.. I have had no issues. Currently not paying for much, I have to exhaust other funding means first but if I need it he will help me out.
Quineg1 points4y ago
I am in California also, but up in norcal. I worked with California Department of rehab. I assume they would also be in socal. Have you heard anything about that department down there? My experience varied greatly based on the counselor, which seems to be a theme. My first counselor though was amazing. She was an incredible resource and advocate for me and got the department to pay for everything she could while I was in school. My second counselor was super flaky and unresponsive and it took an enormous amount of effort and persistence to get my accessible textbooks covered, but it always went through eventually. So it sounds like the individual counselor plays a big role in how much assistance we are able to get. I wonder if it is possible to find reviews on counselors beforehand or if we can switch if we already have one that is not helpful. If so, that may go a big way for getting use out of these programs and departments.
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estj3171 points4y ago
That’s right it’s the same one. I agree with you that’s right. I know of some good and some bad. It’s all about the counselor Also some states are better than others. I don’t know how this state is but I am doing eh okay. I thought it wasn’t going to work out sure he was going to say welp no deal but he didn’t say that.
There is no way to get reviews unfortunately and sometimes you can’t even pik the counslor try to call around. The only way I got this guy was through a connection. This one was who I knew. You may be able to call around your local area when you first apply I guess people can initially ask others how their counselor is and try to find a good one. See if they will return your call if you call them about opening up a case for you etc.... I forgot how it goes not sure if you can change counselors midway.
But most importantly there is a handbook, do you have your vr rights handbook? My friend who worked with them told me about it, and this counselor also made me aware and sent me a copy.
Do you have this:
Consumer information handbook
It’s kind of what’s your rights what’s the procedures how you follow the procedures to get your rights if you don’t think you’re getting it. If you’re not with DOR anymore did you have a copy. I started with them in 2011 so this handbook is from then and the governor was still schwarzenegger.
Quineg1 points4y ago
I don't have the handbook. I don't recall if I ever got one or not. Thanks for letting me know about it. I just tried to look it up online but the DOR website is down or something and I can't access an online version of the handbook. I guess I will have to check again later.
estj3171 points4y ago
I don’t know if it’s online it may be, but my counselor furnished me with one when I got in there. My friend also told me about it. But he worked with the same guy. Ask for it, they may not offer it as a thing, but should not hide it from you if asked? I mean if they do then that’s a problem? A really big one. I’d send you mine but I still am with them, but truthfully I’ve never had to use it, I thought I may have to last year but I didn’t. Also, my copy is old so there may have been an update.
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