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Low Cost Refreshable Braille Displays (self.Blind)
submitted by TheBlindBookLover
Hi. I was wondering if anyone knows of or tried any low cost refreshable braille displays? Has anyone tried the Orbit or Dot Mini? Thank you to those who respond.
bleeblat 5 points 4y ago
I haven't had the chance to try these, but for serious reading I don't think it would work, due to the lack of routing buttons and on the Braille Me they don't even have 8 dot cells. I was going to get an Orbit Reader, but I was able to get the Brailliant BI 40 because someone in this sub recommended it, so thank you to whoever that was. I'm currently trying to get back into programming, if I can find some good tutors, and reading several large books, so this helps a lot. I have used smaller braille displays in the past (refreshabraille and a 20-cell braillex) but I wore out the access bar on the braillex from panning, and I fear that the same would happen to other smaller displays because you don't have a full line of braille, so you're constantly hitting pan right. It's very nice to have the full sized display. I think anything less than 40 cells is not so good for a lot of reading and anything larger is not portable, really. It'll be interesting to see if these multiline ones ever get produced. The Brailliant one is very portable, and is still 40 cells, but it's too expensive. At least the build quality is better than some others, but I still think there's a lot of greed involved, considering the claim that piezo-electric cells are expensive really doesn't check out when you go pricing the build kits. Also if you read UEB, you'd definitely have to pan the hell out of a smaller display, as text eats a lot more space. I guess it depends how much, and for what, are you going to use braille. If you just need quick and dirty reads, then a small display with no routing buttons is fine, but if you'd prefer braille to speech for access in general, and you need a high quality crisp braille display, maybe something a bit more expensive would serve better. Big fat disclaimer, obviously you need a fat wallet or an agency with reasonable terms to make that work, and I realize both of those are in short supply. I didn't find APH reliable for service, but maybe the folks that make the Braille Me are better in that regard. I hope we can get low cost displays that don't make these ridiculous compromises at some point, because literacy is very important. You're further ahead with a tiny display than none at all, for sure, but I'd definitely send some feedback to all companies if you can, because the current state of braille is unacceptable, and I'm not sure how best to change that.
estj317 2 points 4y ago
I’ve actually read several books on a orbit well either one I take one out and one sits around the house. So yeah. It’s actually been a really good experience.
-shacklebolt- 2 points 4y ago
Routing buttons aren't a big loss when you're reading books. 20 cells isn't great for programming, but it is very portable, which makes it more suitable for people who might want to read on the go or use their mobile devices with a braille display.

A brailliant 40 also costs $3000, and an orbit reader 20 costs $449. It's not "a bit more expensive." They could literally wear through and just decide to throw out 6 orbit readers and still come out ahead from buying one single brailliant 40.

The Orbit was the product of a massive undertaking (look into the Transforming Braille Group) to lower the cost of braille displays significantly. It doesn't have the all bells and whistles, and maybe larger cheap displays are out there in the future, but it's still an incredible advancement in terms of making braille accessible to more people.
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stormsong19 3 points 4y ago
I have an orbit and love it. I use it for standalone reading, as well as paired to my phone.

I tried the braille me as well, but found the refresh rate too loud, the braille too crisp, and the orientation counterintuitive.
estj317 3 points 4y ago
I have never heard of the dot mini. I have two orbit readers the maximum number you could buy. I love it. It’s different but it’s great and it works fine. I use mine a lot more at the end of last year, but It was good when I had the need for it honestly it wasn’t bad as a stand alone reader either.
retrolental_morose 3 points 4y ago
I haven't heard of the mini.

the Orbit and BrailleMe both use similar tech: the pins refresh slower and louder than traditional (pricier) models. they also feel sharper to the touch, like braille signage more than the slightly squishy braille a display may have had in the past.
Did you have any specific questions? Have you used any braille devices already?
TheBlindBookLover [OP] 1 points 4y ago
Hi. Thanks for responding. I am a college student, and I need a Braille display that is easy to carry around. I will mainly use it while editing essays, doing light reading. and taking notes. All of these tasks would be done while the device is connected to my laptop that is running JAWS. I have used the BrailleNote and Brailliant BI 40 by Humanware in middle and high school. Do you think that the Orbit would meet my needs?
retrolental_morose 1 points 4y ago
Hi!
There's no doubt it will handle the work, but if you're able to get funding for a traditional display it would probably be quieter and offer more cells. The new generation Focus is quite nice, and Hims are selling a braille display/keyboard which has a pc keyboard emulator which people like. I'd only advise a student go Orbit if they really want a smaller display, or if the cost is a factor. UK students tend to get equipment funded, which takes the benefit of price out of the calculation.
honestduane 2 points 4y ago
In my experience the words "low cost" and "braille displays" have never been together, just in my experience they are always overpriced or expensive. Its not uncommon to find them for $6k-$12k each.

Companies milk them as much as profitable for profit because insurance is normally paying for most of it, so if your insurance wont you ant afford it most of the time. I know of no "cheap" version or I would own several.
estj317 1 points 4y ago
Well there is actually a thing the orbit is fairly inexpensive I don’t know of the brailleme thing but the orbit is quite reasonable. I have 2 of them.
-shacklebolt- 1 points 4y ago
A couple new low-cost braille displays have hit the market within the last year or two that are massively cheaper than previous displays.

Both don't have 100% of the bells and whistles as some more expensive displays, but they are quite a lot cheaper. Depending on your intended use, this might not be an issue for you at all.

The orbit reader 20 is $449 US through https://www.aph.org/orbit-reader-20/ or £449.00 (ex VAT) through https://shop.rnib.org.uk/orbit.html along with other sources. The orbit doesn't have routing buttons.

APH has had seemingly inconsistent supply and is currently out, but they have been getting them in stock sometimes. A few of our subreddit members do own one now.

There's also the Braille Me 20 cell http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/BRAILLE-ME.html which costs $515.50. The Braille Me only has 6 dot braille, not 8 dot.
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-shacklebolt- 1 points 4y ago
Sorry, I have to remove this comment due to the reference to self-harm.

Please see https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/wiki/hotlines if you need urgent support.
honestduane 1 points 4y ago
Read it again, I had made a joke.. there is nothing about self harm there I think you have the wrong comment in mind.

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romanamarin 1 points 4y ago
Hello.
I’am new. I‘am looking a smaller BD.
I’am thinking to buy OR20.
I’am not familiar with braille displays.
OR20 use piezoelectric or magnet?
There is a specific programs for convert other text formats to braille?
Thank you all for response.
Romi
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