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Seeking answers to powerpoint on the mac. (self.Blind)
submitted by ENTJ351
I know this is a possibility. There is a mac version of powerpoint. I can’t think of the name right now.
Is it really workable? How do you do it? How do I go about learning to read a powerpoint.
there is probably a way but I honestly haven’t tried very hard to do this. I am usually a pretty brilliant student. I am trying to not sound like I am r/iamverysmart here. I don’t hardly study I consider myself to have a near photographic memory. I am in my eighth year of college and my gpa is about mid b about 3.46. So I get through these classes really efficiently and well.
However this semester I have a teacher whith a different learning/teaching style then I. I am a really linear thinker, he’s not. He’s all over the place! I find it very difficult to follow his teaching style. Some of his example seem out there and come out of no where. If it matters I am ENTJ and he’s entp. So yeah. Anyway. Different information processing.
I say all that to say this. I think I am going to have to study his power points, book and just basically teach myself.
But I need to know how to do this. I’ve never had to do much with powerpoint presentations. I know there is a program to do this both on the mac an iphone but never really learnt to work in it or with powerpoints.
Can someone help me? I have to learn this quickly and use this. I consider myself a quick learner so yeah.
Is it really workable? How do you do it? How do I go about learning to read a powerpoint.
there is probably a way but I honestly haven’t tried very hard to do this. I am usually a pretty brilliant student. I am trying to not sound like I am r/iamverysmart here. I don’t hardly study I consider myself to have a near photographic memory. I am in my eighth year of college and my gpa is about mid b about 3.46. So I get through these classes really efficiently and well.
However this semester I have a teacher whith a different learning/teaching style then I. I am a really linear thinker, he’s not. He’s all over the place! I find it very difficult to follow his teaching style. Some of his example seem out there and come out of no where. If it matters I am ENTJ and he’s entp. So yeah. Anyway. Different information processing.
I say all that to say this. I think I am going to have to study his power points, book and just basically teach myself.
But I need to know how to do this. I’ve never had to do much with powerpoint presentations. I know there is a program to do this both on the mac an iphone but never really learnt to work in it or with powerpoints.
Can someone help me? I have to learn this quickly and use this. I consider myself a quick learner so yeah.
itisisidneyfeldman 1 points 4y ago
There is PowerPoint available for the Mac, but it sounds like you are thinking of Keynote, the Apple-native presentation program that a lot of Mac users prefer.
It's not totally clear what you're asking. You have never had to read the powerpoint slides for a class in your 8 years of college? If the Powerpoints are available, you can use your screen reader to navigate the slides and read the text. The same should be true for Keynote as well.
Microsoft's guide to Powerpoint and screen readers is here:
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/use-a-screen-reader-to-explore-and-navigate-powerpoint-a11115c7-6038-44a9-b355-8e133a4e9594
Similar features should be available for Keynote using Mac OS's VoiceOver.
If you have trouble, you may consider asking your instructor if he could try to make sure the slides are as accessible as possible, adhering to guidelines such as these: https://www.swarthmore.edu/sites/default/files/assets/documents/academic-advising-support/Accessible%20Presentations.pdf
It's not totally clear what you're asking. You have never had to read the powerpoint slides for a class in your 8 years of college? If the Powerpoints are available, you can use your screen reader to navigate the slides and read the text. The same should be true for Keynote as well.
Microsoft's guide to Powerpoint and screen readers is here:
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/use-a-screen-reader-to-explore-and-navigate-powerpoint-a11115c7-6038-44a9-b355-8e133a4e9594
Similar features should be available for Keynote using Mac OS's VoiceOver.
If you have trouble, you may consider asking your instructor if he could try to make sure the slides are as accessible as possible, adhering to guidelines such as these: https://www.swarthmore.edu/sites/default/files/assets/documents/academic-advising-support/Accessible%20Presentations.pdf
ENTJ351 [OP] 1 points 4y ago
Ah, yes keynote! I knew it wasn’t called numbers hahaha!
Is keynote or powerpoint better?
And nope. Eight years of college and I haven’t really had to read power points. I hardly study and use not to read textbooks. I got a and b grades. I don’t mean to sound r/iamverysmart but that’s me. I get people telling me off for it but it’s like I get it without needing those this teacher however. Isn’t teaching me very well.. so I am afraid I’ll have to teach myself.
Do you use it with pretty standard vo commands and where do I find stuff like going to the next side and such? Is that pretty self-explanatory. I haven’t really gotten to play with a powerpoint slide on there. And playing with it myself just didn’t go very far I guess. It was a long while back.
Is keynote or powerpoint better?
And nope. Eight years of college and I haven’t really had to read power points. I hardly study and use not to read textbooks. I got a and b grades. I don’t mean to sound r/iamverysmart but that’s me. I get people telling me off for it but it’s like I get it without needing those this teacher however. Isn’t teaching me very well.. so I am afraid I’ll have to teach myself.
Do you use it with pretty standard vo commands and where do I find stuff like going to the next side and such? Is that pretty self-explanatory. I haven’t really gotten to play with a powerpoint slide on there. And playing with it myself just didn’t go very far I guess. It was a long while back.
itisisidneyfeldman 1 points 4y ago
Yeah, Numbers is the native spreadsheet app, along with Pages and Keynote. They are the main constituents of Apple's iWork suite.
Sorry, I should have clarified that I'm not blind myself but work in and with the blind community, so I don't want to overstep my experience. But I've seen blind colleagues give presentations, and I think all the ones I saw used Powerpoint. That's probably simply true because PowerPoint just has enormous market share overall, not due to some problem with Keynote.
I don't see a lot of intrinsic differences between Keynote and Powerpoint, though some people people will swear by one or the other. For familiarity reasons, I use Powerpoint since I have lots of practice with it, but when I've used Keynote it has seemed pretty intuitive. The file formats are also cross-convertible.
You're most interested in reading someone else's slides, not making your own, so if the instructor uses Powerpoint slides, you're best off using that program. Conversion often forces weird unintended shifts in formatting and so on. Advancing slides is pretty intuitive (just spacebar or arrow keys), and other commands would be intuitive like any other app.
One tip I would offer, if the prof has designed the slides in an organized fashion, is to export an outline from the presentation. It assembles the presentation title, slide titles, and slide text in an organized way that you can just paste into a text document. That might not get everything, but it's a pretty efficient way to study the main points of a presentation. Depends somewhat on the content, of course.
AFB put out a review of Office applications' accessibility here: https://www.afb.org/afbpress/pubnew.asp?DocID=aw160902
And AppleVis mentioned how accessible Keynote is here:
https://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-macos/pros-and-cons-mac-accessibility-perspective
Hope that's a good start and that you can talk to someone with more direct experience using either of them.
Sorry, I should have clarified that I'm not blind myself but work in and with the blind community, so I don't want to overstep my experience. But I've seen blind colleagues give presentations, and I think all the ones I saw used Powerpoint. That's probably simply true because PowerPoint just has enormous market share overall, not due to some problem with Keynote.
I don't see a lot of intrinsic differences between Keynote and Powerpoint, though some people people will swear by one or the other. For familiarity reasons, I use Powerpoint since I have lots of practice with it, but when I've used Keynote it has seemed pretty intuitive. The file formats are also cross-convertible.
You're most interested in reading someone else's slides, not making your own, so if the instructor uses Powerpoint slides, you're best off using that program. Conversion often forces weird unintended shifts in formatting and so on. Advancing slides is pretty intuitive (just spacebar or arrow keys), and other commands would be intuitive like any other app.
One tip I would offer, if the prof has designed the slides in an organized fashion, is to export an outline from the presentation. It assembles the presentation title, slide titles, and slide text in an organized way that you can just paste into a text document. That might not get everything, but it's a pretty efficient way to study the main points of a presentation. Depends somewhat on the content, of course.
AFB put out a review of Office applications' accessibility here: https://www.afb.org/afbpress/pubnew.asp?DocID=aw160902
And AppleVis mentioned how accessible Keynote is here:
https://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-macos/pros-and-cons-mac-accessibility-perspective
Hope that's a good start and that you can talk to someone with more direct experience using either of them.
ENTJ351 [OP] 1 points 4y ago
Are these people on a mac or windows machine? Because I rarely use windows.
I just don’t know how accessible/inaccessible powerpoints are on the mac.
I just don’t know how accessible/inaccessible powerpoints are on the mac.
itisisidneyfeldman 1 points 4y ago
It is a mix, now that I think about it. Both types of machines for laptops, though iPhones dominate for mobile devices. In any case, both powerpoint and keynote are accessible on the mac.
You could just try downloading a powerpoint presentation and reading it with both Keynote and (if you have it) Powerpoint. Both programs will open .ppt files. If you google more or less any topic and include "ppt" in the search terms, it's a good bet the first few results will be direct links to a Powerpoint file.
A random example is the following link, which when clicked, will download a presentation on global health trends:
http://globalhealth2035.org/sites/default/files/resources/four-major-themes-presentations.pptx
You could just try downloading a powerpoint presentation and reading it with both Keynote and (if you have it) Powerpoint. Both programs will open .ppt files. If you google more or less any topic and include "ppt" in the search terms, it's a good bet the first few results will be direct links to a Powerpoint file.
A random example is the following link, which when clicked, will download a presentation on global health trends:
http://globalhealth2035.org/sites/default/files/resources/four-major-themes-presentations.pptx
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