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I'm curious to see what you guys think about this! (self.AmItheAsshole)
submitted by dankswed
IDunnoBr0 8 points 4y ago
Wow it's really divided. Rarely have I seen a question on that sub that has made me think so hard about such a scenario. I'm not sure he is or isn't the asshole after reading so many good points in the comments.
LanceThunder 9 points 4y ago
i think its only divided because everyone feels that being blind makes you completely helpless. if she had vision most people would realize she was acting entitled.
dankswed [OP] 2 points 4y ago
Omg, this was honestly my main/first thought. Like on some level, there's some harm being done to her in not encouraging her to do it herself, so she can be more independent. But we're all helpless cuz we're disabled, right? 😂

Hahah, but for real. I dunno. It's pretty tricky! Gotta say, my biggest issue was everyone speaking for her blindness when they're sighted, y'know? Like fack, do you even know what it's like?
LanceThunder 2 points 4y ago
being sighted is no excuse. i can see and i know the blind people can shave their pubes all by themselves.
SpikeTheCookie 7 points 4y ago
I think the only issue is having really good communication as a couple.


Lots of spouses end up as caretakers (illness, disability, age, dementia). I don't actually think "should you be a care taker?" is the issue.


I don't think vision is the issue either. Because at the heart it's about her fear and vulnerability around strangers. (The same scenario could happen with people who are agoraphobic or morbidly obese or dealing with PTSD.)


It's just communication. She asked for something. He agreed because he loves her and didn't want to say no. First communication issue.

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Over time it became uncomfortable and he didn't say anything. Second communication issue.

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Then he did speak up and she felt hurt, they didn't resolve it in a productive conversation where his feelings were respected too (third communication issue), and she didn't feel empowered to realize there are other options, and they could talk the options out. Fourth communication issue.


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dankswed [OP] 3 points 4y ago
Toooootally agree. All around, it sounds like she may need support with it, but he also may have been unintentionally kinda dickish about defining it. However, I'm tempted to say there's some level of manipulation on her part for getting so emotional about it (i.e., crying). I dunno the whole story, really, but meh.
brimstone_tea 7 points 4y ago
He's absolutely right. She could easily get help by someone else and I absolutely get why he's uncomfortable, he's her boyfriend and not her caretaker. Also, why can't she shave just because she's blind?
hurricjayne 7 points 4y ago
That was my thought. I have some residual vision but I close my eyes in the shower so I can concentrate more on where the razor is so in effect I’m 100% blind when I shave. It’s really not that hard (for me anyway) and I shave EVERYTHING (tmi but also relevant).

You’ve just gotta be careful 🤷🏻‍♀️
happyforyoubutami 1 points 4y ago
I’m sighted but I shave my bikini line by feel. I am not looking when I shave my bikini line. I assumed everyone did that. This was confusing to me (Also the original situation is deleted so I’m going by the comments).
hurricjayne 1 points 4y ago
Honestly I feel like you get a better shave without looking/by feel anyway, because you can feel all the little hairs you miss.

Original sitch: GF (blind) originally went to a pro to get hair removed (armpits, legs, pubes). Asked BF to do it all instead. He felt uncomfortable, asked if he was an asshole if he said no.
dankswed [OP] 3 points 4y ago
Personally, I don't get how she can't either, but I definitely don't know her situation. It's such a strange scenario.
cookieinaloop 3 points 4y ago
Are you blind?
brimstone_tea 4 points 4y ago
Yep :)
cookieinaloop 0 points 4y ago
And yet you do not understand our abilities differ. Most blind girls can do that by themselves, but this one in particular cannot, at least not yet.

Also, who is she supposed to ask help from that would "easily" help her? Someone who she felt comfortable enough and trusted enough, like maybe her boyfriend?
brimstone_tea 2 points 4y ago
You're absolutely right, I was wrong to judge her abilities. I don't agree with you on the other point though. It not only matters that she feels comfortable, her boyfriend's feelings are as important as hers. If he doesn't want to do something than he doesn't have to. She could easily seek help by visiting a professional waxing salon. Or she could just leave it, her boyfriend doesn't force her in any direction, he is just honest about his feelings.
Wafflez13 3 points 4y ago
I find it awkward I think she should just get it professionally done. Like he could help with her legs because thats not really that weird. And she could handle her own underarms because that is actually fairly easy. And her pubes she should just get professionally done.
i_love_family 4 points 4y ago
Agreed. The armpit thing, I was like, wut

Personally, it's about communication, and sometimes taking one for the team if you can't get it done professionally
oncenightvaler 1 points 4y ago
I like it very much when I can get people to "be my mirror"

For instance I was out with an old friend yesterday and the first thing she says to me "Your haircut looks nice, your beard looks well trimmed, whose the lucky girl?" and we both laughed.

but then later when I was cleaning up with napkins, "you should make sure to check by your mouth and by your chin."

My parents do this, my siblings sometimes do this, and my few older friends do this, peers usually don't.
SLJ7 1 points 4y ago
I just saw that the two top-level comments were from a blind person and someone with a blind friend, respectively, both calling out the people who were shaming OP and saying that this girl is probably perfectly capable of doing it herself. This kind of thing seriously restores my faith in people. There are probably tons of child comments and ones with lower votes, but I don't really want to see them. Enough people agreed with these ones to bring them to the top. Let's all try and hold onto these things when we have bad days and wonder if there's a single human in the world who doesn't think we're helpless one-dimensional inspiration generators who all have guide dogs and caretakers who read Reddit to us.
cookieinaloop 1 points 4y ago
I understand the "she shouldn't do that" and "she's the asshole" on the original post, but here?

People in here should know better how stressful and humiliating it is to ask people for help with such personal issues. He says they're together for years and just now she asks him to do so, because it's too expensive to have it done by professionals. Most blind girls can do it by themselves, but people's abilities vary a lot from person to person and even from time to time. She might just need to get confident and know she can do it, but instead of reassuring her of that he just went "wow that's gross, I won't do that".

Seriously, just put yourself in her shoes.
HDMILex 1 points 4y ago
She's the asshole here.
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