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New Assistive Tech | NaviLens (self.Blind)
submitted by richslave
Hello VI Community!

I work with this startup called NaviLens which is based in Murcia, Spain. It is a company that is geared toward the autonomy and independence of visually impaired or blind folks. We have developed this technology called ddTags that use your phone’s camera in order to orient yourself or find an item, whatever the case may be.

It is a completely free technology that has made its way in public transportation here in major cities of Spain, in museums and art galleries, in the workplace, and even in people’s homes.

I have a couple How-To videos listed below which detail how you can use this amazing technology right in your own home as well as some pictures from its museum implementation below :-)

Please reach out to me vis PM if you have any questions, comments, concerns, etc. Hope you all enjoy the app!

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FencingJester 3 points 4y ago
Have you considered pairing with a product like Orcam's MyEye?
richslave [OP] 2 points 4y ago
Ugh, man have I! Hahaha I’ve noticed that tech along with Google Lens and I literally salivate at the idea of a merger in capabilities lol. However, I believe our first phase right now is simply to get people familiarized with a potentially positively impactful product that is absolutely free to all consumers. We want to show how helpful this tech can be and then once that is achieved, I believe that more talks will happen in regard to acquiring other companies, partnering, etc.
FencingJester 1 points 4y ago
Understandable. I shot Orcam a message about functionality and adding something like Navilens and how it would be a game changer (especially with the in-motion lens capture, no more making sure you're perfectly squared up). Hope you guys keep innovating.
richslave [OP] 1 points 4y ago
Exactly, that’s exactly what I was thinking. Thank you! Always making moves for more independence and autonomy of blind and vi peeps :-)
HDMILex 2 points 4y ago
OK cool, just downloaded the app and requested the tags. Do I need to print these tags and..stick them to items or doors etc?

What is the radius for actually detecting these tags? Seems like remote visual assistance would be much faster and easier..what am I missing?
richslave [OP] 1 points 4y ago
Yup! You can print and cut/tear them, or if you are looking for a simpler design and way of use, if you buy this sticker paper from Amazon, you’ll be able to just print them out right on to the paper and just stick them where you need. As a self-proclaimed minimalist, this is what I prefer hahaha.

And they can be detected from about 30-40 feet away more or less, of course further with the very large, single page tag. And while I do understand that for sure, this is just one facet of what this product does. It’s mainly geared to be used in the real world like in stores, museums, trains, planes, everywhere. Making them in your home is only one dimension of this product’s capabilities.

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ErtaySh 0 points 4y ago
This can be super handy. I see that there are 18mm ones but is there a way to generate more of these? My particular use case would be to put them on playing cards for various card games.
richslave [OP] 1 points 4y ago
Oh yeah definitely useful for something like that!
You can definitely have more with various sizes! If you go on the NaviLens app and click on that little rocket ship icon in the bottom right hand corner, there is an option to “Request Personal Tags” if you click on that, you just have to enter your email address and you will receive a PDF doc with a bunch of different sizes to choose from!

If you need help in cutting them out, on the Personal Tags tutorial, we go over that toward the middle of it :-)
ErtaySh 3 points 4y ago
Alright, so I tried the app with a couple of personal labels and it seems to be very fast at recognizing the labels, even in poor lighting conditions.

I tried requesting another set of personal labels, but I received the same ones (same PDF files) in my email. Is it possible to generate more unique labels to tag as many items as we want? Really hoping that this is possible, as it will be super useful for playing board and card games with secret information.
richslave [OP] 1 points 4y ago
Sorry for the delay! I went to ask the bossman about it to be sure I was providing an accurate answer!

Nonetheless, the tags are the same... always. In fact they are the same codes for everyone. The information assigned to these codes is stored inside the mobile phone of the user in order to protect the privacy of the content that the users wants to write inside the personal tags. We normally send in the email 100 diferents codes.

So, yeah there technically would *not* be a way to generate more codes as we used the idea of 100 being a fair amount of tags that the user would need.

However, I think I will begin talking about developing a way for you to choose the sizes and amounts of codes you would want so that way you could customize it to your liking with the sizes you would want.
ErtaySh 1 points 4y ago
Thanks for your reply! Yes, I am aware that the custom information is stored on the phone and not on the tag itself, and that's fine as this allows the tags to be simple and easy to recognize. I think you are converting the tags into hexadecimal values, and I think there's 6 digits, so if my math is not wrong, you should be able to generate over 16 million unique tags.

100 tags are probably enough for most people to tag everyday items, but seeing how well this performed with card and board games, I'd love to be able to get more tags! The 18mm ones are fantastic for this use case. Is there anywhere I can sign up to follow the development of this or participate as a tester?
ErtaySh 2 points 4y ago
I did request once and got the pdf files in my email. If I request more, they will be new and different ones? I thought they will be duplicates.
SpikeTheCookie 0 points 4y ago
WOW! This is a very cool innovation /u/richslave !

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Have you made many inroads in the US?

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Also, is your company developing non-paper markers, as well? I can see so many uses when it comes to clothing (which needs to be washed). :-)

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Thanks for taking the time to share all these links!
richslave [OP] 1 points 4y ago
So far we have been in the talks with Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), The UK Transit Authority, The CTA in Chicago, and the Transit Authority of New York. So we are definitely making some headway there and hopefully you will start seeing some NaviLens codes where you live in the very near future!

And yes, we are currently creating a markers that can be used as Tiles, so VI people can just scan the floor tile and it can assist in guiding them; it’s so cool!! Other than that, we want to get this product to be anywhere you can see a barcode/small information because this can be so helpful for those who can’t read the small print and things like that, so yes more solutions in the near future as well.

Thank you for your questions :-))
SpikeTheCookie 1 points 4y ago
This is such good news!

I can't wait to see this become commonplace. The uses are pretty unlimited. :-) Thank you so much for sharing!
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