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How do you get around without driving? (self.Blind)
submitted by coffee4jesus16
I’m moving to a new city on my own. Uber is expensive. I could get a vision waiver with my acuity but I’ve been taking drivers ed and just don’t feel comfortable. I can’t read signs until I’m right on them and can’t see intersections well. I’m not visually impaired enough to qualify for paratransit. Is there a cost effective transportation method beyond busses that I’m missing, because the bus system is rather poor too and there are a lot of unsafe areas to walk. Am I missing some method?
blind_devotion08 6 points 4y ago
Depending on the city you're in, there might be shared-ride taxi programs, busses, or shuttles. However, if your vision is good enough that you could get a vision waiver, but you're just uncomfortable driving a car, you could also consider a bicycle. When I was a kid, I went to a summer school program for the blind and they had all us kids on these big tricycle things, which were actually pretty fun and easy to ride around on. However, that might not work so well in winter or inclement weather. The upside is you don't have to worry about a license, just what the route is like for cyclists.


Otherwise, if taking a bus, tram/subway/monorail or other big-city transit option isn't available, the only options I can think of are getting rides from people you know by carpooling, paying them, etc.

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Best of luck, OP.
maximumjanet 4 points 4y ago
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coffee4jesus16 [OP] 2 points 4y ago
While I technically qualify, my she doctor has highly discouraged me from getting them. She says they’ll narrow my field of vision too much. Maybe I’ll talk with my new eye doctor when I get one and see what they think. Either way, I’m barred from night driving, period, in my new state , so I still have to figure out how to navigate that. I put in a paratransit request for nights only because even though my acuity is alright, I think at night I have justification, maybe. Can’t see signs well when it’s dark, right?
maximumjanet 3 points 4y ago
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hork_monkey 3 points 4y ago
I live in a metro area (St Louis) and completely stopped driving about 1.5 years ago since my vision is getting worse. For my purposes, I found Uber/Lyft to actually work out to be less than half on what I was paying on my car note and insurance.

Try it for a week or two. Lyft is competing hard with Uber and will throw 25%-50% coupons at you all the time if you maintain a 5 star passenger rating.

Also, I'm on Lyft's subscription plan. It basically works out to $300 a month for $450 worth of rides (depending on a few factors).

I have actually been pleasantly surprised on how easy the transition has been. I do have to plan my trips a little better in order to maintain efficiency, but it's not too hard once you get the hang of it.

I do miss some of the freedom but all in all, it's really not as hard and expensive as I thought it would be.
coffee4jesus16 [OP] 3 points 4y ago
Oh I’ll be relatively close to St Louis but in a much smaller city!

I had no idea Lyft had that plan. That’s amazing! I have rides that are $9 ish, so they’ll be over the minimum plan but way under the $15/ride max plan. Do you know if I got over $8 if I just pay the rest of the ride difference?

How much do you pay total on Uber/Lyft if you don’t mind me asking?
hork_monkey 2 points 4y ago
I'm out in the county myself (Manchester Area). For the subscription, its cost effective when most of your rides are within the $10-$15 range. You'll make money on those. You'll lose a little on the rides under $10, but it tends to go in my favor over the course of a month.

In general, I take about 40-45 rides a month. On top of the $300/mo, when I tip and for overages I generally pay about another $100.

That average gets me out of the house 2-3 times a week and includes the extra trips I take when I have custody of my daughter. I'm pretty efficient in planning my trips, but I'm also impulsive and like to explore 1-2 times a month.

Its going to increase next year when I have to get my daughter to/from school. In that case though, I'm familiar with most of the drivers that live in my area and plan on working out a side deal with them for those trips. That should save on the price and the drivers I talked to like the consistency of it.

Let me know if you have any more questions or ideas. I try to be as independent as possible and like trading tips with others.
coffee4jesus16 [OP] 2 points 4y ago
Oh shit I forgot about tips.

I’m getting to and from work every day unfortunately so I guess my costs are going to be much higher. I won’t lie though, I’m intentionally moving into a coworker’s complex in hopes of frequent carpooling.

Are you familiar with Sangamon County Illinois at all?

Do you know if there are ever groupons?
HDMILex 2 points 4y ago
Uber/Lyft for me. Busses when I got time to kill.
coffee4jesus16 [OP] 1 points 4y ago
How much do you spend on Uber/Lyft a month if you don’t mind me asking?
HDMILex 1 points 4y ago
Way too much than I should.
quanin 1 points 4y ago
This. I'll do whatever's handiest/most convenient. Paratranspo won't touch me, but the feeling's mutual so no real loss there. Instead, I use Calla. Calla Friend, Calla Cab, Calla Lyft/Uber.

Note: for screenreader users, that's Call a. Text-to-speech sucks sometimes.
KingWithoutClothes 2 points 4y ago
I was born legally blind and my vision further decreased over the years, hence driving a car or even a motorbike was never an option for me. I remember as a I wanted to get a license for a small motorcycle really, really badly but it simply was not possible. That was very painful.

Fortunately, I am from Switzerland where we have perhaps the best public transport system in the world. Especially trains are extremely popular in my country and even the tiniest mountain village has its own little train station and good connections to the nearby villages and larger towns. On top of that there is a very dense network of busses and trams (mostly within cities), post cars (between villages), publicly operated ships on the lakes and funiculars in the mountains. Because the country is relatively small and the public transport system is so good, it is very common for Swiss people to live in one city but work in another one. Or live in the countryside but work in the city. For example I live in a different city than the one where my university is located and I commute whenever I need to go there. The bus stop is a 5-minute walk from my apartment away. From there it takes me 8 minutes to the city main station. Depending on the train connection I choose, it takes me between 20-25 minutes to the other city. There I get off the train and walk another 5 minutes to the tram stop. The tram ride takes about 10 minutes. When I get off the tram, I'm standing pretty much right in front of my university. It's very convenient, also for me as a blind person.

There were times in my early 20s when I was incredibly frustrated about the fact that everyone around me was allowed to drive a car while I was excluded from this fun activity. However, I don't feel that way anymore. The truth is that owning a car in this country is rather useless because there is no single location, no matter how remote, that I wouldn't be able to reach by public transport. In fact, I am now married and my wife has never bothered to get a driver's license despite being fully sighted. Not owning a car has become kind of a trend among millennials in Switzerland; it's now almost considered cool to use public transport. I'm very happy about that because it means the government continues to fund our public transport system well. Contrary to the US, public transport is not something exclusively used by poor people in Switzerland. Everyone travels by bus, tram and train here. Even our Federal Councils (equivalent to the President in the US) use public transport to go to work (I once sat nearby one of them on the train to Bern).

I must say that living in the US would be extremely difficult for me already for this one reason. Sure some cities have good subway and bus systems but still, there are so many places you can't go as a blind person. Or you just have to pay yourself to death by using taxis all the time. It feels quite discriminating to me to be honest. I know it's not intended to be discriminating against blind folks but that is the effect. It makes me sad to think that Woody Guthrie sang "this land is for you and me" but if you're a blind person in, say, Wyoming or Montana, you're just screwed. You have to depend on the kindness of other people to drive you around and that really sucks. At least I know I would really hate that.
afraidofdust 2 points 4y ago
Where are you moving if you feel comfortable sharing?
coffee4jesus16 [OP] 1 points 4y ago
Sangamon County Illinois
afraidofdust 1 points 4y ago
Dammit. i was hoping it was somewhere I was familiar with. Sorry.
coffee4jesus16 [OP] 1 points 4y ago
No problem, haha The chances were slim haha
rebel_134 1 points 4y ago
Since I live near a major city, and I’m able to get free public transportation, I take city buses, or the metro. I also take Uber if I am in a hurry or if I’m lost and I don’t know where I am.
matt_may 1 points 4y ago
Uber and spouse, mostly. My city turned me down for assisted transport because they feel like I can ride the bus with my cane. I'd have to cross an insane four lane road with no cross walk, so, nope.
oncenightvaler 1 points 4y ago
the bus

the taxi occasionally

my mom driving me sometimes
TacticalAvocado222 1 points 4y ago
I personally like my longboard
coffee4jesus16 [OP] 2 points 4y ago
Oh that would be great.

I just can’t be on foot or similar transport near my work due to safety issues. :/
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