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What is the best way to help blind people? (self.Blind)
submitted by holepunchtape
Hi, I noticed a blind man today who seemed confused in a relatively open space using one of those sticks to navigate (sorry for my ignorance I don’t know what they are called).

I asked if he needed help and walked him inside a building that he asked for. As we went I held his hand directing him and explained where we were.

It got me thinking what’s the best way to help blind people? He didn’t really make any requests so I just tried my best. I’d like to know what I could have done better.
cookieinaloop 12 points 4y ago
Let them hold onto your shoulder or elbow when walking, put their hand on a chair's backrest if you are showing them somewhere to sit down. If they're using a cane there's usually no need to warn about irregularities on the floor, but it might be necessary if they don't use one (stairs, steps, curbs).

Definitely do not grab their arm and drag them around (I'm a blind girl and I had men taller and stronger than me doing this more than once and it is fucking scary).
holepunchtape [OP] 10 points 4y ago
He put out his hand which I held but next time I’ll ask before I touch someone and offer my arm/elbow instead. Thank you!
Mindito 6 points 4y ago
I would assume that if the person had a white cane that they have had previous O&M training and have been taught how to solicit assistance/teach human guide ( holding onto the guides shoulder or elbow) But what you did was 100% A- Ok but you would never want to just grab them and again assume that they need help. But we all know what assuming means.
Also, some travelers may not want human guide but directions to their desired destinations. I hate using this term but it’s what I’ve learned from my O&M program, “it depends.”
holepunchtape [OP] 5 points 4y ago
Thanks for your response. I wasn’t sure what he was expecting, next time I’ll offer my arm/elbow instead. I’ll also clarify if they want guidance. What kind of directions can I give?
Mindito 1 points 4y ago
With the directions it can be difficult because sometimes using cardinal directions can be beneficial in conjunction with the roads (if you know them). But something like: right now you’re facing north on Main Street and you need to cross two streets and turn right at the next intersection to go east on Park Drive. Your destination will be halfway down the block.
You don’t need to put in the cardinal directions but it does help.
Prefect316 3 points 4y ago
This can vary though. It may just be because I'm a dumb idiot but cardinal directions just confuse me. Everybody's different and will have different needs directions-wise. The only hope is they know what they need well enough to ask. Thanks for taking an interest in being a good ally to the blind, OP.
Mindito 1 points 4y ago
Oh I agree 100% and I wouldn’t say you’re a dumb idiot at all. It’s difficult at times to describe a route with left and right because they can vary depending on the direction that you are facing. The cardinal directions are always set in stone. Again, it varies from person to person.
AmAsabat 5 points 4y ago
Sounds good to me. Thank you for noticing and offering. For future ask how they want to be guided, I ask for a guide to allow me to rest my hand on their elbow.
HDMILex 5 points 4y ago
You probably did just fine.
multi-instrumental 4 points 4y ago
Pretty sure you did just fine.
ukifrit 2 points 4y ago
Don't grab them, it's fucking scary.
xagna 2 points 4y ago
Try not grabbing them instead let them grab you

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oncenightvaler 2 points 4y ago
a) Those sticks are called canes.

b) There's a specific technique called Sighted Guide, where the man would hold your elbow but from what it sounds like you directed him well.

I am sure he was grateful for any assistance, normally I am fine and I wait to find people and ask them for help unless god forbid I accidentally walk into the street.
bscross32 1 points 4y ago
Some people in my family still say walking stick, lol. A walking stick, which I will make use of, is something to aid walking. I will find something suitable if I go walking in the woods, something that can get battered and doesn't make a difference. Something I can safely prod the ground to find logs and stuff with. I'd easily break a folding cane if I tried to do that with it.
bscross32 1 points 4y ago
I think you did OK, but without knowing all the circumstances, it's hard to say for sure. One thing I would strongly recommend is to not just up and grab someone. I've heard of this happening to others, it hasn't happened to me though. My first instinct would be to throw them on the ground or in some other way, incapacitate them, because I wouldn't be thinking, oh here's someone to help me, I would think I'm being attacked and my survival instincts would kick in. Then I'd feel like shit for punching or throwing someone who only wanted to help, then I'd be pissed that I had to feel like shit because they should have just asked first 🤦‍♂️. So yeah I guess if they seem really zoned out, tap them on the shoulder to get their attention, but that's as far as I would go before you have talked to them about it. Also, when we're standing at the corner, at a traffic light or something, we're generally listening ahead, not behind, because we're trying to pick the right moment to go, using our orientation and mobility training. That means we might not notice someone coming up on us, or may notice, but ignore that, because it's probably just someone else looking to cross. So, if that person just comes up and grabs one of us, yeah that's gonna tend to scare the shit out of us.
aaronespinozaca 1 points 4y ago
Letting someone hold on to your elbow is the correct way to guide a blind or low vision person.
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