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Full History - 2019 - 04 - 22 - ID#bg7dbx
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Hello, we are GoWithRobo. Our robot guides the people with blindness to go anywhere. Can you answer these three questions listed in the comments to help us? Thank you for your time. (v.redd.it)
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-shacklebolt- 2 points 4y ago
Well, this is one of the worst ideas for "blindness technology" I've seen in some time and that's saying something.

Aside from how hideous and unnecessary the RC car stick is, it’s all downsides. It’s like a cane, except with less tactile or auditory feedback, costs way more, is harder to move independently, and it runs on batteries! Literally everything about this idea is worse than a cane or guide dog.

From a service point of view, the liability of telling someone to substitute their cane or guide dog for an agent-guided service has to be insane. You’re proposing entrusting a call center agent and a couple cameras with situations where a person could die if you get it wrong and they get hit by a car or fall down the stairs. That’s frankly stupid.

For your sake, I hope this is a student project you don’t actually plan on trying to commercially release.
Cre_13 2 points 4y ago
I think blind people could hire real people at minimum wage which around $10 per hour to navigate them without needing to pay 999 upfront and internet connection. Plus much reliable real time information.

For $22 per hour people could hire a personal trainer if they are fancy for running.

I do think it's a good product and could help lot's of people but with that price range I'm not sure if it can be. I hope it still will and by the time you can offer better pricing. Good luck.
tsarjak 1 points 4y ago
We are trying to minimise costs as much as possible, such as moving the agent operations from USA (where minimum wage is high) to some other country where minimum wage can be much much lower. Currently, we are testing operations out of Korea and/or India. If successful, we could be able to get cost down significantly. We are also working on self-driving robot, and once that is ready for launch, there will be no subscription fee for usage.

Thank you for your feedback.
Anianna 1 points 4y ago
Oh, I don't think that's a good idea at all. We all (disabled or not) have trouble with tech support and other call center operations using foreigners who do not speak English (or whatever language is the primary language in the country you are serving) as a first language. Adding a language barrier to an assistive service will not be helpful. Even if your agents speak English really well, they would still lack knowledge of the area or certain nuances of foreign streets and traffic issues that could put your clients in danger.
HDMILex 2 points 4y ago
lol wtf did i just watch? Thought it was a late April Fools for a fraction of a second

because blind people really need another device which will make them look 'out of place' in society. Fair, the agent thing is legit and just like BME/Aira, but there's no way I'm walking around with a goddamn robot beside me lol
tsarjak 1 points 4y ago
Thank your for the reply.

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Just a follow up question. We are currently in the beta product stage of the development. And yes, it is like Aira, but with added features (ideas borrowed from guide dogs). If we change the appearance of the robot, will it change your mind?
HDMILex 1 points 4y ago
What do you envision this 'robot' to look like?
BlindOwl12 1 points 4y ago
If you develop technology that can guide a blind person why wouldn’t you moun it into a wearable device, a robot would be impractical not to mention wierd as compared with a headset or some other form of wearable technology. I’d much rather receive feedback about my surroundings, able to make my own choices about where to go rather than relying on a human or electronic guide.
Anianna 1 points 4y ago
If the app connects you to a human to guide you, what is the point of the robot? Does the agent have control over the robot? Could the same form of remote human assistance be performed without the robot, perhaps just a person-to-person app that uses the phone's camera or some other camera that could be attached to clothing?



When I first saw this, I thought it was an autonomous robot, not much different than a self-driving car. I think your title is a little confusing if it is not doing the guiding, but relies on a remote human guide to work.
yeprich6905 1 points 4y ago
Human assistance cannot be performed every time to everyone will be the point I guess. If it wS possible why would someone train guide dog?
tsarjak 1 points 4y ago
Yes, we first tried developing an autonomous robot, but due to lack of data (which is non-existent for sidewalks), we had to switch it to agent controlled agent. So, currently, a human will control the robot, and will also describe the environment around the user. We plan to move to completely autonomous robot in the future, and after that, there will be no time limit for it.
Anianna 1 points 4y ago
I'm very interested in the autonomous robot you have planned. Please keep us updated.
tsarjak 1 points 4y ago
Supposing internet connection is perfect in your area.

Questions :

1. Which country are you from?
2. The BigMac Meal in the USA is $10. We sell the robot at $999, plus $22 in USA (However much less in different countries - for example, $13 in South Korea, or $3 in India) is charged for using it one hour. Do you think its worth using it?
3. If so, why? If not, why not?
Drop9Reddit 1 points 4y ago
Seeking clarification on question 2 does a user purchase the bot then pay hourly or are you just giving the bot value for context.

1, Canada
2, assuming context 22 an hour could be ok depends. If you pay for the bot and pay hourly not worth it
3, If I pay that much for hardware i expect indefinite use of it.
tsarjak 1 points 4y ago
Got it. So, we are trying to minimise costs as much as possible, such as moving the agent operations from USA (where minimum wage is high) to some other country where minimum wage can be much much lower. Currently, we are testing operations out of Korea and/or India. If successful, we could be able to get cost down significantly.


Thank you for your feedback.
Anianna 1 points 4y ago
As I understand from the video (I had to watch it twice, I don't think it is clear enough), the device is $999, but in order to function, it requires remote connection to an actual human guide who uses the onboard camera and GPS functions to guide you, which is what costs the $22/hour. It is not an autonomous robot that can guide you without human assistance.
Drop9Reddit 1 points 4y ago
Oh then straight out not worth the money. At least to me.
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