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Hi! I'm A College Student from Chile, And I’m Doing A Study On Blind & Visually Impaired (self.Blind)
submitted by jclarocc
Hello,
I have a project for "advertising workshop"(or at least that’s the literal translation) course where i must work towards progressing the field in an area I feel is left out. I have chosen blind and visually impaired, maybe I’m wrong on saying left out, but my teachers are okay with my decision. I would like to know what general information you feel should be more known to the general public, maybe it’s something only you feel should. And are there any times you feel important information was left out to you because or your impairment, ranging from a product you’re interested in, to more general information like an election campaign.
I hope these questions aren’t intrusive in any way. And thank you in advance for taking the time to read.
Cheers!
I have a project for "advertising workshop"(or at least that’s the literal translation) course where i must work towards progressing the field in an area I feel is left out. I have chosen blind and visually impaired, maybe I’m wrong on saying left out, but my teachers are okay with my decision. I would like to know what general information you feel should be more known to the general public, maybe it’s something only you feel should. And are there any times you feel important information was left out to you because or your impairment, ranging from a product you’re interested in, to more general information like an election campaign.
I hope these questions aren’t intrusive in any way. And thank you in advance for taking the time to read.
Cheers!
AllHarlowsEve 5 points 4y ago
Things that could make life easier for blind people
- Less reflective wrapping, helps people who can't see well as well as fully blind people who use devices to read the item. I've had a hell of a time with shiny plastic.
- Braille. It's done in a few countries, it can be done large scale.
- Packaging that makes it obvious how to open it. I got tea recently that required I find the edge of a tear strip and then open the box, but even after I mutilated the tear strip, it had a lot of resistance and felt like I was breaking the box. Turns out that it has little paper points to keep the box closed. Don't do that.
- Stop using tape on everything. I hate cutting 4 strips of tape just to not be able to open it due to a hidden fifth strip. Use a single large sticker, or design your box so that you can use just one strip.
- Those plastic shell packages that have the edges crimped together so you have to get scissors and then you end up cutting your finger on the razor sharp plastic should be illegal. The plastic things that have tabs that set into each other, like bakery boxes? Those are great.
- Contrast is good. Dark packaging, light colored words, bold and obvious, are good.
- Have plain text information online. I've had several products or food items that I've googled to find that the only information is in a series of images.
- For products that aren't just food, visual descriptions and standard words are great. I might know what a cardigan is, but if you call it a cascade because it's a lightweight one, I will have no idea what you're talking about. Ran into that online earlier.
- Have a fit guide for clothes online. I've seen 4x as a size that was a medium in american sizes, and that was fun.
- Minimal packaging is good. I hate gaging the size of something only to find out that a third of its packaging is paperwork.
- Less reflective wrapping, helps people who can't see well as well as fully blind people who use devices to read the item. I've had a hell of a time with shiny plastic.
- Braille. It's done in a few countries, it can be done large scale.
- Packaging that makes it obvious how to open it. I got tea recently that required I find the edge of a tear strip and then open the box, but even after I mutilated the tear strip, it had a lot of resistance and felt like I was breaking the box. Turns out that it has little paper points to keep the box closed. Don't do that.
- Stop using tape on everything. I hate cutting 4 strips of tape just to not be able to open it due to a hidden fifth strip. Use a single large sticker, or design your box so that you can use just one strip.
- Those plastic shell packages that have the edges crimped together so you have to get scissors and then you end up cutting your finger on the razor sharp plastic should be illegal. The plastic things that have tabs that set into each other, like bakery boxes? Those are great.
- Contrast is good. Dark packaging, light colored words, bold and obvious, are good.
- Have plain text information online. I've had several products or food items that I've googled to find that the only information is in a series of images.
- For products that aren't just food, visual descriptions and standard words are great. I might know what a cardigan is, but if you call it a cascade because it's a lightweight one, I will have no idea what you're talking about. Ran into that online earlier.
- Have a fit guide for clothes online. I've seen 4x as a size that was a medium in american sizes, and that was fun.
- Minimal packaging is good. I hate gaging the size of something only to find out that a third of its packaging is paperwork.
JuJutsukaTim 3 points 4y ago
Ohhh, this is brilliant. Some of the things I didn't consider yet myself.
I once had a piece of cheese shrink-wrapped into plastic so tightly it was next to impossible to get out -- that was fun, too. Anything that covers a product so snuggly you have trouble removing it as a sighted person is an absolute disaster for the blind ^^
I once had a piece of cheese shrink-wrapped into plastic so tightly it was next to impossible to get out -- that was fun, too. Anything that covers a product so snuggly you have trouble removing it as a sighted person is an absolute disaster for the blind ^^
jclarocc [OP] 2 points 4y ago
wow thanks for sharing all of this in detail! some of these would actually benefit everyone, not just visually impaired, thats a plus. i had never heard of the shiny plastic issue, thats super interesting.
thank you again, i appreciate it.
thank you again, i appreciate it.
benee16 2 points 4y ago
Totally agree with all your points.
I especially hate the shiny packages, then the writing is done in a pale color so it's almost impossible to figure out. I take pictures of stuff like that, and still have problems.
I also agree that those crimped packages are the most frustrating things. I've even cut the packages open, only to find out I cut the instructions in half.
Another winner here is the plastic tie that is wrapped around the item so closely that you can't get the scissors in to cut, or the tie is too thick to cut with the scissors.
So there is something called youdescribe $1 where you can request videos to be described. I'm bringing this up from a post that was talking about an old spice commercial. It is something that is slowly being added to. Someone had told me about it when it first started.
Also for us low vision people, clear pictures of the product, not side pictures with other things all around and on the item.
If it's in an app, I'd like to be able to resize the text within the app. I am an android user, and would like to see more fully accessible apps there. There are many apps where only part of the app is accessible, and the the rest has buttons and things that you have to guess what they do, or they don't work.
I don't know if any of this helps you, but as you include more stuff, I'm sure people will pipe in with more ideas or problems they have.
I especially hate the shiny packages, then the writing is done in a pale color so it's almost impossible to figure out. I take pictures of stuff like that, and still have problems.
I also agree that those crimped packages are the most frustrating things. I've even cut the packages open, only to find out I cut the instructions in half.
Another winner here is the plastic tie that is wrapped around the item so closely that you can't get the scissors in to cut, or the tie is too thick to cut with the scissors.
So there is something called youdescribe $1 where you can request videos to be described. I'm bringing this up from a post that was talking about an old spice commercial. It is something that is slowly being added to. Someone had told me about it when it first started.
Also for us low vision people, clear pictures of the product, not side pictures with other things all around and on the item.
If it's in an app, I'd like to be able to resize the text within the app. I am an android user, and would like to see more fully accessible apps there. There are many apps where only part of the app is accessible, and the the rest has buttons and things that you have to guess what they do, or they don't work.
I don't know if any of this helps you, but as you include more stuff, I'm sure people will pipe in with more ideas or problems they have.
jclarocc [OP] 2 points 4y ago
of course it does! the more conversation the better! no idea you describe existed, pretty awesome site.
benee16 3 points 4y ago
Hard to answer such a general question. What kind of information are you looking for?
jclarocc [OP] 3 points 4y ago
Sorry if im being vague, english is not my first language, so its kind of hard to translate what im trying to say :)
Project consists of creating a inclusive campaign for a product. I can either create the product or use a existing one.
This project just came up but im thinking of doing a educational-esc campaign where basic and or essentail info is shared about how people could make something for the visually impaired better in Chile, where i feel there is no info on general stuff like how to approach someone. I will see about the product later, it could be something as simple as a tea shirt to a app.
Project consists of creating a inclusive campaign for a product. I can either create the product or use a existing one.
This project just came up but im thinking of doing a educational-esc campaign where basic and or essentail info is shared about how people could make something for the visually impaired better in Chile, where i feel there is no info on general stuff like how to approach someone. I will see about the product later, it could be something as simple as a tea shirt to a app.
stalinprude 2 points 4y ago
I would say something that stands out and irritates me is certain colors. For example, on electronics. I wish there were add ons or better settings to change text colors. Especially on webpages like google, it's my go to search engine, but the blue and purple colorsof the searh results are torture. Sorry if i took this the wrong direction. Good luck with the project, friend!
jclarocc [OP] 1 points 4y ago
this is great! i guess QOL updates are actually QOL updates in these instances.
JuJutsukaTim 2 points 4y ago
Because I'm deafblind, and the deafblind are a relatively small disability group, we're constantly left out.
CAPTCHAs: If you can see, you do the picture task. If you can hear, you do the audio task. If you're deafblind... Well, what? You need to ask for help from a third party... Not ideal.
Or in museums: What if you can't see the things on display, and can't hear the audio guide?
In the election for the parliament of the EU, they planned to send me all candidates recorded on CD. Fortunately convinced them that a PDF would be more helpful.
But even if you aren't deafblind, depending on the situation we can get quite excluded, too. In the USA, web accessibility is an actual law. Yet some companies hosting site's for musicians, for example, don't care about that standard. The result is that blind people struggle to get to gigs of some artists without third party help.
CAPTCHAs: If you can see, you do the picture task. If you can hear, you do the audio task. If you're deafblind... Well, what? You need to ask for help from a third party... Not ideal.
Or in museums: What if you can't see the things on display, and can't hear the audio guide?
In the election for the parliament of the EU, they planned to send me all candidates recorded on CD. Fortunately convinced them that a PDF would be more helpful.
But even if you aren't deafblind, depending on the situation we can get quite excluded, too. In the USA, web accessibility is an actual law. Yet some companies hosting site's for musicians, for example, don't care about that standard. The result is that blind people struggle to get to gigs of some artists without third party help.
jclarocc [OP] 1 points 4y ago
never thought about CAPTCHAs, it actually always comes to my mind "how can someone get this stuff wrong", guess thats been answered.
thanks for sharing!
pd: guess your a robot surfing the web haha :)
thanks for sharing!
pd: guess your a robot surfing the web haha :)
JuJutsukaTim 1 points 4y ago
We don't even get it wrong, we simply can't do most without help.
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jclarocc [OP] 1 points 4y ago
yeah yeah, thats what i just ask myself.
hahaha good try internet bot
hahaha good try internet bot
beckydr123 1 points 4y ago
Mucha buena.suerte en tu proyecto. Yo te puedo ayudar si quieres
KillerLag 1 points 4y ago
One product that was mentioned to me by some younger clients was commercials that were funny. The example I remember they gave was the Old Spice commercials.
(Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE )
Even though the commercial itself (kinda) describes itself, it makes no sense. Yet it was wildly popular, so lots of people were talking about it.
(Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE )
Even though the commercial itself (kinda) describes itself, it makes no sense. Yet it was wildly popular, so lots of people were talking about it.
jclarocc [OP] 1 points 4y ago
okay i see. ive seen that video before but never thinking on its descriptive manner. the way he describes the scene and how the noise goes with it is pretty remarcable, appart from the fact that the commercial is good.
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JuJutsukaTim 2 points 4y ago
First of all: Speak for yourself, not us. Second: It's kind of stupid to turn publicity for the disabled down... This person is raising, or planning to raise, awareness in their country. Do you really feel like accessibility is so perfect worldwide it cannot get improved any further?
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