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What's the opposite of the NFB Structured Discovery method in cane travel? (self.Blind)

submitted by aaronespinozaca

I worded my question wrong. I meant to ask what is the alternative method to the structure Discovery method?

BlueRock956 1 points 4y ago

Rout System

BlueRock956 1 points 4y ago

Hi, I call it lost time. I spent my middle school and high school years trying to become a proficient traveler, and the Rout System held me back. I graduated with honors from high school, and I was not an independent traveler. I went to the Louisiana Center for the Blind and gain much of my travel independence in a couple of months. I love having the ability to travel using the Structure Discovery Method. Here is a good article that I believe in 100%
https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/fr/fr3/issue2/f030203.html

96tears 1 points 4y ago

Are Structured Discovery certified professionals allowed to teach O&M in public schools? (I know this might be state specific but I'm curious).

aaronespinozaca [OP] 1 points 4y ago

I don't know. I will try to find out.

KillerLag 1 points 4y ago

I'm not sure what you mean by opposite, but reading through the Structured Discovery method (https://www.nbpcb.org/pages/what-is-structured-discovery.php ), the same things are taught in regular O&M lessons. The website states that it is a trademarked system, although they don't state what they do that is special.

CloudyBeep 2 points 4y ago

They don't focus on learning one specific route to get from Point A to Point B; they instead teach skills that can be generalised to learn about environments and how to navigate through them.

aaronespinozaca [OP] 1 points 4y ago

Their method sounds very effective then.

CloudyBeep 1 points 4y ago

It's difficult to tell, because there have been very few studies comparing their effectiveness. There has been a little bit of research done, but it's inconclusive.

aaronespinozaca [OP] 1 points 4y ago

That's true. The AFB has the Journal of Visual Impairment & Blindness (JVIB) and I think they may have done research but their sample size is small.

aaronespinozaca [OP] 1 points 4y ago

I think I worded my question wrong. I meant to ask what is the alternative method to the structure Discovery method?

KillerLag 1 points 4y ago

I'm not sure if you mean something like backwards chaining or forward chaining, because those are more like specific techniques rather than a method. I would guess the Structured Discovery is more of a marketing tactic, since the things they mention should all be taught as part of an individualized O&M program

CloudyBeep 1 points 4y ago

Here are some articles that explain it.
https://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm08/bm0807/bm080708.htm
https://nfb.org/sites/www.nfb.org/files/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm07/bm0704/bm070405.htm

codeofdusk 1 points 4y ago

Not opposite per se, but COMS?

aaronespinozaca [OP] 1 points 4y ago

I don't understand your reply.

CloudyBeep 1 points 4y ago

COMS stands for "Certified Orientation & Mobility Specialist". It is the primary certification people in the US have to hbtain to teach O&M.

NOC stands for "National Orientation & Mobility Certificant". It is the alternative certification to COMS where practitioners employ the structured discovery method.

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