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Accessibility At WWDC 2019 (youtu.be)
submitted by TheBlindBookLover
FrankenGretchen 4 points 4y ago
Might I point out that presenting this clip on r/blind without audio desctibe is the amtitgesis the concept of accessibility? Here, on a sub for blind folks, for a video about accessibility, present us the full ecperience. If such an augmented clip doesn't exist then the clip was not speaking to disabled people about accessibility.
TheBlindBookLover [OP] 4 points 4y ago
Hi. What degree of visual description did you have in mind?I myself am blind and I felt that the creator of the video mainly used clips with dialogue throughout the video. I will send this to the description subreddit later. What specific things should I ask for?
FrankenGretchen 2 points 4y ago
Howdy. I was making an observation. I had others, one of which is that they could've spent the whole time on just the voice command feature and left out the ridiculous visual impairment demonstration app which is not how any VI works, btw. Apple is one of out most outspoken innovators and their VC project is very interesting and much needed.
Just for the understanding that the video is being posted for blind folks, I thought it should intrinsically already have audio describe. Would that not be the essence of accessbility and a prop to Apple for their hard work on our behalf? Had viewers not needed it, they'd still have had a concrete experience of what inclusion is: a demonstration of what Apple is really doing for PWD.
I'm legally blind. I saw the video easily on my phone three inches from my face. I was not impressed. I'd love to be able to fully discuss posts like this with people with all levels of vision loss. On the other hand, yous missed out on some annoyance. Perhaps it's for the better.
I was Describer of All the Things for my mom while she was alive do I do have some experience thinking in this way. Also, this is reddit. Things are never as their titles advertise.
Thank you for the offer, kind cosubber. Have a great day.
Just for the understanding that the video is being posted for blind folks, I thought it should intrinsically already have audio describe. Would that not be the essence of accessbility and a prop to Apple for their hard work on our behalf? Had viewers not needed it, they'd still have had a concrete experience of what inclusion is: a demonstration of what Apple is really doing for PWD.
I'm legally blind. I saw the video easily on my phone three inches from my face. I was not impressed. I'd love to be able to fully discuss posts like this with people with all levels of vision loss. On the other hand, yous missed out on some annoyance. Perhaps it's for the better.
I was Describer of All the Things for my mom while she was alive do I do have some experience thinking in this way. Also, this is reddit. Things are never as their titles advertise.
Thank you for the offer, kind cosubber. Have a great day.
JamesRath17 1 points 4y ago
Hi, creator of the actual video here. I'm legally blind so even if I wanted to describe everything in the video, I wouldn't be able to see everything in the clips I filmed. YouTube doesn't support optional audio descriptions as this time, it's something I've spoken about publicly and privately with YouTube/Google and they don't seem interested.
Zach's app is an alpha build and nowhere near ready to ship on the App Store so it's gonna look raw. I simulate my vision through filmmaking all the time, is it a perfect replica, no. But it helps paint a better picture for my peers, teachers, and parents while disclaiming it's not the same as having it and feeling the physical strain from my eyes.
As a filmmaker, I'm always looking for constructive feedback and try to be as descriptive as possible with the docu-narrative I'm trying to get across.
Zach's app is an alpha build and nowhere near ready to ship on the App Store so it's gonna look raw. I simulate my vision through filmmaking all the time, is it a perfect replica, no. But it helps paint a better picture for my peers, teachers, and parents while disclaiming it's not the same as having it and feeling the physical strain from my eyes.
As a filmmaker, I'm always looking for constructive feedback and try to be as descriptive as possible with the docu-narrative I'm trying to get across.
FrankenGretchen 1 points 4y ago
I'm a painter and photographer who dabbles in anything that gets my message across. I understand the ideas behind both the method and the intent you're describing. I gave up on ambassadorship a long time ago. In fact, it was well out of my system before I got out of high school and away from the prohibition on any art classes. (blind kids can't take art/votech classes was a solid rule, then. Not sure about now. I wouldn't be surprised if it's still in effect.). I still had resistance to taking them in college but I did it anyway. I had a lot to learn but I had a professor who supported me exploring adaptations of methods as opposed to doing everything by the book.
YouTube and Google both have a lot of catching up to do. The G has my angst over a needed change in coding that would free up my streamer for cool stuff and integrate my hearing aids with my phone like Apple has had for years.
I was looking at that video from the perspective that audio describe could've been embedded as part of the soundtrack in the released clip rather than an option at playback. Think of it as a mandatory dose of accessibility for onlookers, much like your own work is -or should be- accessible to you before anyone else gets consideration. A perfect statement of inclusion, no?
YouTube and Google both have a lot of catching up to do. The G has my angst over a needed change in coding that would free up my streamer for cool stuff and integrate my hearing aids with my phone like Apple has had for years.
I was looking at that video from the perspective that audio describe could've been embedded as part of the soundtrack in the released clip rather than an option at playback. Think of it as a mandatory dose of accessibility for onlookers, much like your own work is -or should be- accessible to you before anyone else gets consideration. A perfect statement of inclusion, no?
JamesRath17 2 points 4y ago
Thanks for sharing this TheBlindBookLover!
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