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Full History - 2019 - 06 - 09 - ID#byri28
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Blind/VI people, when did you underestimate the vision of a sighted person, and what were the consequences. Similarly, Sighted people, when did you underestimate the perception of a blind/VI person. (self.Blind)
submitted by bscross32
KillerLag 8 points 4y ago
I've had situations on both sides of the fence.

When I was training to become an O&M instructor, I did my placement at a school for the blind. There is an inner courtyard surrounded by the school building, where many of the kids would hang out during the lunch break. While I was walking down the hall, I could see two teens who were making out on a bench in the courtyard. When I ran into the guy later, I spoke to him a bit and happened to mention I saw him making out with someone. His response was "You could see through windows?!?!". I was kind of surprised that he was in his teens and didn't realize that (He also had a cognitive delay, so perhaps that may have been a contributing factor).

One of my clients a few years ago lost some peripheral vision due to a brain injury, and had a few other issues as well (balance being one, and some visual confusion with her remaining vision). When walking down the sidewalk, she had trouble judging where to walk (she would waver left and right significantly). I suggested she look at a landmark down the sidewalk, and walk towards that, so she could walk in a straight line. She says "like that red sign?". I look down the sidewalk, but couldn't see the sign she was talking about. It wasn't until we walked halfway down the block that I could finally see the sign. I was like "How the heck did you see that far?"
bscross32 [OP] 5 points 4y ago
I never used to realize you could see into a car through the windows, only out. While I did have some vision, still do though its much the worse, the glare messed with me so much I could never see in, so I just thought it was like that for everyone.
Mokohi 5 points 4y ago
When I was in boarding school for the blind, there was a lot of pressure put on me to lead and guide my peers because I had the most vision, though my vision is still pretty bad. I had even been yelled at for not doing it right because the teachers just assumed I could see better than I could. As a result, I sometimes catch myself trying to guide my Mom and brothers around who are perfectly sighted
bscross32 [OP] 3 points 4y ago
Oh, they did this to me at summer camp for the blind/handicapped when I was younger. Except, they gave me a bad kid who didn't want to cooperate. He kept screaming and trying to go off on his own. I actually could have guided him decently if he would have just acted right, but the guy literally flung himself into a lit firepit that I had to lift him out of. He was completely blind and I couldn't control him good enough with him trying to break free all the time. Luckily, it was daytime and the fire was burning low and not at full force like a bonfire.
Mokohi 2 points 4y ago
Yikes! I dealt with some that were uncooperative or that kept trying to talk to me while I was trying to navigate, but never any that were self sabotaging. That's awful. It's very frustrating when people go 'oh, you aren't totally blind, so you must be able to see like a sighted person.' I got lost countless times due to things like this because I cannot see that we'll and I never had proper O & M until I started the school. It was literally my first few years being taught how to navigate without holding someone's hand like a small child, yet so much responsibility for others was put on me. I do like to be independent and I learned a ton there, but things like this still annoy me.
bscross32 [OP] 3 points 4y ago
Oh that wasn't even the worst of it. Luckily, I got him out of the fire before he got hurt. Imagine me at 14 having to take the guns away from 17yo and 24yo counselors. BB guns, but they were playing with them on the way up to the rifle range. I'd been shooting since the age of 7, and I was incensed. I strode up to them and took them and said if you can't fucking act right, I'm holding them until we get there. Even still to this day thinking back on that pisses me off. What kind of dumb moronic person points a gun at another. BB guns can still kill. You'd have to get a shot right in someone's eye, but it \*is\* possible.
Mokohi 1 points 4y ago
That is all kinds of dumb! Can't believe you had to have more maturity then an adult and a 17 year old at only 14. People suck sometimes
throwaway0994940 3 points 4y ago
When my (legally blind) sister was about 6 my cousins and I were arguing over what colors the flowers in the garden were and she just could not believe that one can't just look at a color and have a set idea. Like what I think of as "magenta" is not universally seen as magenta, even though we're thinking of the same color. So what I would call sky blue someone else might call baby blue. She still forgets this, because she'll go into a craft store and ask the associate to help her find Magenta paint, and comes out with a mauve. That's how she ended up painting me an almost entirely mauve and blue garden scene.

On the other side, we were walking past a lightbulb display and she just started listing off the types of lightbulbs as we passed. Apparently she can tell the difference because of her photophobia and over time learned her preference of lightbulbs. We call it "the world's lamest party trick." She asked me to pick up a specific type of bulb for her appartment, but they didn't have it. I found one completely identical though. I couldn't tell you the difference with a gun to my head. I installed it for her while she was at work. Later, not 10 minutes after she got home, she called me and told me I had the wrong bulb and that I need to return it. I still cannot fathom how she can tell the difference.
KillerLag 2 points 4y ago
People with certain eye conditions can't see some frequencies well. Florescent bulbs are generally considered the worst, although some bad LEDs are also not good. Depending on your eye condition, OTT bulbs (also called full spectrum bulbs) are better because they replicate natural sunlight. Most people can't tell the difference unless the light is side by side, and even then it is tricky.
throwaway0994940 2 points 4y ago
That's really interesting! Her preference isn't "I can't see this" but rather "this one hurts my eyes and blinds me" if I remember correctly. She doesn't even use lights unless guests are over. I assume it does have something to do with frequencies or something though. Now I'm curious so I'll have to go look up if other people with her illness are like this. Thanks for the info!
CloudyBeep 2 points 4y ago
Regarding the colours, not to mention how different colours appear different depending on the lighting and things like that.
bscross32 [OP] 2 points 4y ago
Some lightbulbs flicker oddly and its ... not pleasant. Anyway, I've often wished I could relate color to the peeps who are completely blind, but I just have no way of doing it. Anything I could say, others have said, and it's just not even close.
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