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Feeling bad for accidentally causing other people to get hurt...? (self.Blind)
submitted by KingWithoutClothes
Hello everyone,

I was inspired to ask this question by two rather uncomfortable experience I've had recently.

The first one: Two weeks ago I was on my way to the hospital. I went there by train because that particular hospital was located in a different city. For clarification, I'm from Switzerland where we don't have subways. Due to the fact that our cities are quite small and located close together, most Swiss people commute by train. Anyway. I got off the train at my stop and waited for a few moments to let all the other people walk past me on the platform. I usually do this so I have the platform for myself and feel less stressed. Then I proceeded to walk to the stairs that would take me to the underpass. I have a tiny bit of vision left but it is really tiny, about 2/100. When I reached the stairs I quickly looked down and listened as I always do. I couldn't hear or see anyone. So began walking down, keeping to the very right side of the stairs, as I had been taught in O&M training. I was in a good mood on that morning and so my "walking" was actually more of a running. There was no need to be scared because I had my caned. Suddenly and without warning, I crash into another person. Now, I'm a pretty big guy, 6'1'' and maybe 220lbs, so you can imagine the momentum I had and the force of impact. What I'm going to describe next took place in just a few split seconds. The person - a young woman around my age as it later turned out - lost her balance and tipped over. She raised her arms in shock and I could see there was zero chance this was going to end well for her. It was clearly too late for her to grab the handrail. In front of my inner eye, I already saw her smashing on the concrete steps with her face, cutting her forehead open at the pointy stone edges. The staircase was still long underneath us, so she would've fallen/rolled down a long way. Imagining this made my blood freeze. I don't know quite how I did it but with the instincts of a sighted person I lunged forward and grabbed her by the tip of her coat. Then I quickly and forcefully pulled her back towards me. When she was stable on her feet again, she turned around and gave me a very angry stare. I was still in shock and kept apologizing. She eventually walked off without much comment. For a long time after this experience I wondered why this girl had been quietly standing on a random step of long staircase. First I thought she had been walking with crutches but that's not possible because she was gone so quickly afterwards. My guess is that she was probably staring into her smartphone and didn't notice me approach for that reason.

The second experience happened just two days ago. I walk through the hall of a big train station with my cane. Average speed, nothing out of the norm. Suddenly an elderly man runs passed me as though he was getting chased by the police. Maybe he tried to catch a train, I have no idea. He someone misses my cane although there was a lot of free space around me and the cane was easy to spot - and trips right over it. The man didn't raise his hands for protection, so he fell right on his face on the stone floor. Within seconds, there was a large crowd of people standing around him, trying to help. I heard people say "give me some tissues" and "he's bleeding a lot". I felt absolutely terrible but didn't know what to do. I wanted to say sorry but nobody seemed to care about me (they were all trying to help him). Eventually there was this sweet old lady who grabbed me by the arm and said: "you should just go, it's not your fault, I'm sure he'll be alright."

Now, here's the thing: rationally I know that neither of these incidents were my fault. Obviously. There was no way I could have seen these people and since they were both sighted, it was probably *their* responsibility to watch out for me. After all, they see about 50 times better than me. But that doesn't change the fact that on an emotional level, I'm still a bit shook up over these experiences. Especially the first one. By the width of a hair, this girl escaped some very, very serious injuries. And even if it hadn't been my fault technically speaking, I would've felt responsible nonetheless because I bumped into her.

This leads me to my question: has anyone of you ever experienced similar things? I would love to hear your stories. Also, how did you act and most importantly, how did/do you think and feel about those accidents or almost-accidents?

Apologies for the long post.
ThePettyPademelon 11 points 4y ago
Honestly, I may be an asshole, but my 7-year-old is blind. If someone trips over her cane, I see it as their problem. Her? Blind. Them? Not so much. I give people the stank eye if they bump into her.

Generally, when I walk anywhere with her, people veer around us.
CloudyBeep 10 points 4y ago
To avoid accidents like the first one, you shouldn't run, but I think it's her fault for 1) standing in a place where people would be expected to stand; and 2) not moving when she saw/heard you.
UltimateAtrophy 6 points 4y ago
It's totally not your fault unless your waving your cane around like samurai.

I am sighted, but my father in law is not. He has not taken to picking up cane skills because he feels he will get in people's way. This is something I want him to get over, but it's understandably difficult.
CloudyBeep 3 points 4y ago
If you're walking and you hear people talking and hit them because you expected them to move to make a path for you, that is your fault, but if there's a person standing silently looking at their phone, that's their fault.

You could explain to your relative that people will be more forgiving if you hit them with a cane rather than because of inadequate vision.
Myntrith 3 points 4y ago
I'm sighted, and not to compare our experiences, but if it makes you feel any better, I've bumped into people. The most notable one was when I was walking to lunch in Chicago, and for whatever reason (totally my fault, but I don't recall the details), I bumped into an older gentleman and caused him to lose his balance.

I reflexively grabbed his forearm (not just his hand, but his forearm) to stabilize him before he fell. I promptly apologized and made sure he had square footing before I let go of him.

In my situation, it was totally my fault, because I'm sighted and could have been more careful. I'm not comparing us in that regard. I'm just saying that I've done it too, for whatever that might be worth to you.
Superfreq2 3 points 4y ago
In 9th grade, packed 3000 person high school at lunch, up on the mezzanine above the cafeteria area so a very open spot, a girl was running and tripped over my cane and fell flat on the ground and started crying and kind of groaning in pain. Didn't hear anything snap but she might have sprained her wrist or ankle or something.

I remember she had a large backpack on and she was really quiet and shy which just made things so much worse for her, I half heartedly reached my hand down for her and asked if she was okay, not expecting her to take it and of course she didn't, then she ran off (don't really blame her honestly).

Then I was left to just sorta, drift away as if nothing had happened.

I thought about that one for a while, still makes me sad. But in that situation, there isn't allot you can do to salvage it if you both aren't that outgoing, and the societal shit just unnecessarily overcomplicates everything

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Many incidences of my cane going between girls legs from behind do to them standing in the middle of the hall texting which felt incredibly scummy every damn time, and also hitting girls feet with open toed shoes, which happened so much I just tuned it out, but the constant underlying feeling of guilt was always there and many of them honestly did do pretty dumb shit to make that happen. Always felt super extra mega bad though when it was a nice girl who was just in the wrong place at the wrong time though.

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On the other hand, some guy spun around with a big snowboard on his backpack and gave me a black eye with the corner without even noticing, and another guy was called by a teacher and ran all the way down the hall at a sprint, bending my cane at a 30 degree angle as he passed without even noticing, so...

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Anyway, thanks so much for bringing this back up in my memory. sigh...
RJHand 2 points 4y ago
That last story reminds me of the time in 10th grade when a guy sprinted passed me tried to jump my cane and landed right on it breaking it in 2 and simply huffing sorry before sprinting off and continuing whatever mission he was on. Never caught the guy, but still pisses me off when I think about it. People, especially the younger generation, can be pretty stupid at times lol.
KingWithoutClothes [OP] 2 points 4y ago
Well, thanks for telling me your experiences haha. Good to know I'm not alone with this. In my opinion what makes the feeling particularly difficult is that it's actually two feelings I'm having at the same time. On the one hand, I feel extremely bad but on the other hand, I also think to myself: "*really*?? You are fully sighted and couldn't see me coming with my giant white cane??" But as soon as I think that, I feel guilty for thinking it. Also, I know that woman in my first story probably thought to herself: "dumbass blind guy" but felt like she couldn't say that because it would have been very insulting and discriminatory. And in a way I appreciate that but... at the same time I still know these (or similar) words were probably on her mind and that makes me sad. So... it's all so complicated.
RJHand 2 points 4y ago
I do not feel bad when I trip people with my cane or walk into them. Your the one who should be watching out for me. Your problem if you fall. Obviously if somebody's seriously hurt I would stop and try to help as best I can, but that, thankfully, has not happened to me yet. Both the situations you were in though sound to me at least like the other two people in those situations were at fault more than you were. How were you supposed to know they were there or coming at you like that? I wouldn't feel too bad if I were you. Specially if you tried to help the girl in the first situation and she was that angry.
Cancerbro 2 points 4y ago
Defintely not your fault
rpglb_caturria 1 points 4y ago
I've accidentally tripped people with my cane on a couple of occasions.

Believe it or not, the worst of which was... my O and M instructor! Yes, really! She decided it would be a good idea to walk barely a cane length in front of me.

By now everybody should know what a white cane is, and that the person using it is absolutely not going to notice a sighted person standing still with their face buried in their smartphone.

I would feel absolutely god awful if I tripped a child, but other than that, my feelings would be You've got eyes, use them! Your bloody phone can wait until you're sitting down safely.
jouleheretolearn 1 points 4y ago
As a sighted person, one I have done this where someone was standing where they shouldn't or in a weird place, two it's not on you. Who stands in the middle of public transit stairs?

I appreciate that you feel bad that they got hurt, and you tried to help as much as possible. That's all you can do, so please don't feel bad.
KingWithoutClothes [OP] 1 points 4y ago
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