How do you go about life when you can’t drive?(self.Blind)
submitted by dudley9
Hi, so I’ve been partially blind for all my life (6/37). So I’m not legally blind but I am blind enough to where I can’t drive. Recently, I’ve noticed I’ve skipped parties or deliberately missed events with friends because I have no method of getting there without being a burden on my mates.
I’m in a good crowd and have gotten lifts before from many friends but with each one I grow more and more guilty. Do you guys have any extra insight into this? Also, how does one go about entering into a relationship where one party can’t drive? (This question has been bugging me for ages!)
Iguessimkindalame10 points4y ago
Lyft and uber. Also, Your friends will most likely want to help you.its not like you’re shooting not to drive. I know it’s really hard to get over the guilt though.
HDMILex5 points4y ago
And if they do not want to help you, they are not and should not be your friends.
ktwounds8 points4y ago
Lyft, uber have been great, relationship wise: I told my now wife on our very first date about my vision, I cant drive now nor will I ever be able to again. She was fine with it, if she wasn't we would not have had another date, some can handle it some cannot, that's NOT on you don't feel guilty b/c you cant drive a car for reasons beyond your control :)
Marconius6 points4y ago
I use Lyft and public transportation. Lyft really helped me stay social after I went blind and was just getting into ONM and learning how to use trains and buses again.
I met my partner online and she is fully sighted. We both love hockey, and 2 years into our relationship we became season ticket holders for our team, then she learned how to drive, got a license, and we leased a car just to drive to and from the games since we live 50 miles from the rink. It is situational and anecdotal, but it is perfectly possible to have a relationship where only one person does all the driving. It doesn't bother her at all and it makes shopping and getting around a little more convenient, plus helps us save money on trips. If you are in an area with good public transportation and have access to ridesharing in lieu of having a partner who can drive, you are already set for getting around independently.
TheChristianGeek6 points4y ago
I am in the USA and Uber is my go-to way to go places. It makes me very choosy and intentional about what I do because it gets spendy. For medical appts and such, I mostly ask a friend.
dudley9 [OP]7 points4y ago
From Australia here and I think I’m headed down a similar path with regard to when and where I do decide to go out. The cost is a bit worrying but the optimist in me says that since we don’t pay for a car and all the strings that come attached with one, paying for other means of transport levels us with the rest of society 😌
LittleTay8 points4y ago
For me in the USA, I roughly did the math for me to go to work twice a day, 5 times a week would cost me around $130 a week. Times four per month is $520. Yearly would be: $6,240.
If I had my own car, it would be around: $20/week, $80/month, $960/year. Factor in insurance (when I could drive it was around $800/year...I cant remember,) and we are looking at $1,760/year.
So for me it is around 4 times less costly if I could still drive. Aaaand that's only if I went to work. Not including groceries or just going out for fun. Also I didn't factor car matenience into the equation such as tires, or freon.
Not trying to make you feel down or anything...it is just why I am planning on moving to a big city that had public transit such as a train.
Anianna3 points4y ago
My daughter was at the theater about 15-20 minutes away expecting me to pick her up, but something had come up and I checked to see if she could get an uber home (we had never used a service like that before and daughter is 17). According to the app, the trip would cost over $20 one way, which was more than I expected. I don't see how people can afford to use these services as well as pay their regular bills such as rent/mortgage, utilities, food, etc. We're on the outskirts of a major city and I cannot imagine how much it would cost for anybody in the 'burbs or rural areas where public transportation does not exist to get around if they don't drive themselves.
nevereatglue3 points3y ago
This is a real issue. It isn't sustainable for most people.
dudley9 [OP]1 points4y ago
Thanks for the insight. A little confronting when the numbers are put there but it was always going to be true. Similar to you, I think I'm going to move to a city (probably Melbourne, Aus, as they've got a great transportation system) as at the moment I'm too far away from everyone and everything with little-to-no public transport available.
dmazzoni1 points4y ago
Are you taking the cost of gas and maintenance into account? In 10 years you'll need an average of $500/year I'd guess.
And what about the cost of the car itself?
LittleTay1 points4y ago
I took the cost of gas, yes (thata they $20. I forgot to state it in the post. Woops)
Cost of car, nope. I have no clue what the average would be. Again, my numbers are a rough estimate. Especially the owning your own car part.
EvilAbed15 points4y ago
You’re local transportation service may provide discounted rates. Where I live visually impaired people who schedule their rides days in advanced can schedule a ride for $1.50 and an additional $1.50 for a return trip.
I’m in California and I am pretty sure that the service is provided by the county I live in and other counties have different policies.
As far as your friends go... I’m not visually impaired but if a friend of mine where to lose vision to the point where he couldn’t drive, I would gladly pick him up before social events. Good friends support each other and I personally couldn’t have fun with friends knowing my bros at home because of his visual impairment.
dudley9 [OP]1 points4y ago
Where I live in NSW Australia, since I'm not 'legally blind' I pay full rates for public transport even though I'm unable to drive - I'm stuck in a limbo. As for your last part, that honestly makes me feel so much better! I've got a good bunch of friends, it's just asking them is the problem.
taosbound3 points4y ago
As for the relationship question - my best friend & now husband is blind and has never been able to drive, whereas I have been driving since I legally could. I guess not *everyone* must feel this way but I've always been perfectly happy with being the sole driver in the relationship and it works fairly well for us. Conflicting schedules can be a pain if they ever come up, but for the most part I really do not mind driving us both around! I think the right person will be more than willing to accommodate, especially given you've got a very good reason for not driving.
jlinco6163 points4y ago
I'm legally blind and live in the States. I rely on public transportation and Uber. I carpool in the mornings to work with my mother in law and my sister-in-law works 10 minutes from me and so often times she'll come get me after work but if not. I take the train. By wife can drive I can't. Sometimes it is a strain on her because she is our primary mode of transportation. But she's a good strong woman, and she knows what she signed up for. It also makes it easier because her sister is legally blind and that's how we met. So she grew up with someone being legally blind so she knew the game. I have a handful of friends I see regularly, and they all have no problem coming to get me if need be. All of them understand I can't drive anymore, and if they want to see me and I can't get there on my own, I need a little bit of help. There are times where I don't ask, because like you I feel badd. But true friends don't care. I always offer to buy drinks or if stopping for a quick bite all offer to get theirs. Or in the morning I will buy coffee. So it doesn't all come for free, I do try to show my appreciation in some way shape or form.
dudley9 [OP]1 points4y ago
That's awesome that it's worked out for you! I do try to pitch in when I can with my friends too - I don't want to be a scab (stinge in the US?), and just leech off my friends as this makes me feel so much worse, thanks for the advice.
szaez3 points4y ago
I recommend Lyft to most people in bigger cities because drivers seem to be more chill about or black friends of mine (!!!) than Uber drivers are.
But if it's just a frustration about not getting around generally, I've been retrofitting my Jeep with sensors so my blind friends can go off-roading with me. I'm in the process of making it accessible to a buddy with mobile issues so he doesn't need to use foot pedals either.
The only problem I haven't figured out is how to get either of them _in_ the truck because ones in a wheelchair and the other is a tad overweight and the Jeep is about 4.5 feet off the ground.
The SOB is armoured for the zombie apocalypse, so what's a crip or blink gonna do for it? Next time you're in the states, lemme know when you wanna go F stuff up. 😈
bradley222 points4y ago
That sounds so cool!
dudley9 [OP]2 points4y ago
Dude you seem like the absolute best. I can guarantee your mates love every second they spend with you because it's clear you care so much!
codeplaysleep2 points4y ago
Well, it took 17 years, but I had a kid. Now said kid drives me places in exchange for me covering their vehicle expenses (which is a lot of money when you're a teenager who can only find part-time, low-paying work at best). It's great, but if you go with this plan, you really do have to be in it for the long haul and there will be more up-front costs than you might expect...
Seriously, though, I live in a rural area with no public transit, so friends/family, and the occasional taxi (no Uber or Lyft here). In my teens, it was mostly my dad. By college, I was getting rides from friends most of the time, and then my husband (and yes, now my kid).
Sometimes it's hard not to feel guilty/frustrated, but friends and family take care of each other - that's just what you do for the people you care about. If they didn't want to do it, they wouldn't offer, and they know I'll do anything I can for them.
B-dub312 points4y ago
I live in a rural area with zero public transit. I am married though, so my wife drives, but it is still very depressing to have zero independence in traveling. I’m putting my house up for sale and moving to a community that is walkable and has public transit available. It will increase my quality of life immensely.
Sarinon2 points4y ago
Most states in Aus let you ride public transport for free with a vision pass. Melbourne and Sydney both have pretty good public transport, it takes longer than a direct route but doesn't cost so it evens out.
I actually wouldn't recommend uber/Lyft. I've had quite a few really unhelpful drivers.
Friends are usually happy to help out as long as you are appreciative and at least offer to top their tank from time to time. Romantic partners are also usually open to helping out. The key is to make sure you're adding value in other areas.
dudley9 [OP]1 points4y ago
Sadly since I'm not legally blind, in NSW at least, I don't get the benefits of having a visual disability. I pay full fares for all transport which is a real pain but as you say Melbourne I think is the go. I should be able to receive the benefits there plus the transport is so good.
CloudyBeep1 points4y ago
If you don't mind me asking, why would you prefer to move to Melbourne rather than Sydney?
Sarinon1 points4y ago
Better than Sydney yeah. Do you walk with a cane? I've never actually been stopped to show my card, so uh ...
dudley9 [OP]1 points4y ago
Nah, I can get around alright once I know where I'm going. I wish I could get that card but only my left eye is legally blind and my right isn't which is just highly inconvenient and somewhat convenient at the same time.
ScarReincarnated2 points4y ago
I live near downtown, in the city. Plenty of city buses. Also, uber and lyft are great. There are also free doctor’s appointment transportation with your insurance, usually.
RJHand2 points4y ago
Its not your fault you can't drive. Your friends or s/o should be able to understand that. You have no reason to feel guilty for asking for a ride from somebody. If you really don't for whatever reason want though, or nobody's available, you could always take uber or taxis or there's things like subway or busses, but I'm not sure what the transit options are like in your area. If its close you could always walk too, no harm in that. But I wouldn't feel guilty about asking for rides, you can't really control that and its not your fault you can't drive.
DrLuobo2 points4y ago
This question will have different answers depending on if you are in a place with good transit or not. I've never had a license due to poor vision, and grew up in a suburb (almost no transit whatsoever, and everything is 2-3 miles away so not super walkable) so I've always relied on friends for rides. I like to think it was never a burden, though I'm sure it may have been at times, but they were (are) my friends, and I was there for them in other ways, where I could help out. It wasn't a "you help me, I help you" system, nobody kept track, we were just there for each other, as friends should be.
If the meet up is a party, maybe get a 6 pack of your friends favorite beer so they can drink some (bonus points if you like it too!). I did this recently when my buddy (who lives 20 min away by car) picked me up to hang out at his house, and dropped me off later that night. He likes cider so I got one we both like, had 3, left the others at his place. If it's a bar, buy your friend a drink as thanks (in my experience they'll probably return the favor anyway :) )
If your friends are nearby, maybe walking to one house and all take a cab to the destination? Benefits everyone since you won't pay for or have to find parking, and you can all split the fare.
I don't have a good public transit system in my city so whenever I am in a city that does have a good system (especially subway or light rail) I will use that as much as possible because I find it enjoyable! After I got married my wife has done all the driving, the only trade-off is that means she always gets to choose the playlist haha.
dudley9 [OP]2 points4y ago
Oh my lord, thanks so much! Massively opened up my way of thinking - I really like the way you navigate having to get lifts too with the mutual benefiting that goes on. I do have a mate who lives a minute away at most and we always used to go everywhere together but moving into adulthood has separated us which sucks but sobeit.
jennyquarx2 points4y ago
Lyft and public transportation.
I'm applying to a paratransit service soon.
CloudyBeep2 points4y ago
As you've said you live in Australia, have you checked out public transport options as it is readily available in most cities.
dudley9 [OP]2 points4y ago
I live in the regional suburbs so public transport isn't so easily available sadly. Just to get to uni, my mum has to drive me 15 mins to the train station and then 15 mins back. Once I finish my teaching degree, I do think I'll move to Melbourne because of the insane transport system there - plus it's a great place to live!
CloudyBeep1 points4y ago
I think all Aussie states have programs where you can pay reduced fares for taxi rides. I'm not sure if you'd qualify based on your vision impairment, but you should look it up anyway.
dudley9 [OP]2 points4y ago
Oh wow, I just had a google and you're right. I had never even heard of this, I'll give it a crack as I believe my disability is 'severe and permanent' enough, thanks so much!
cookieinaloop2 points4y ago
Uber. Lots of uber.
quanin2 points4y ago
There are sighted people who can't drive for various reasons, or just simply don't want to. Ask yourself how they'd do it in that situation? Odds are good you have the same options--public transit, cabs, Lyft/Uber, learn where you're going and walk. These services weren't created for us, we just find them more useful than most.
MyNutsSmellAmazing2 points4y ago
I take lift or Uber, or use the bus and my 2 feet. Taxi cabs are an option, too I guess, if you have the time to wait for them. Some of us also use paratransit services. If you don’t have these options available, blindness would be much more difficult.
Earzitz1 points4y ago
I think bus passes are free for the legally blind with a doctors note. I think.
oncenightvaler1 points4y ago
I would say 80% of the time I use the bus service my town has, and the other 20% I either get rides for family or from taxis/Uber. I am unemployed currently so my system might change once my job situation does or once I move away from my mom's home but this system has worked for me for like ten years.
Fange_Strellow1 points4y ago
You find a way to get over it. The alternative is you don’t go out and stay miserable
LibraryGeek1 points4y ago
do you live in a city that has public transportation? Most of them also have disability transit if you cannot take public transportation because of your disabilities. I use that service to get around when someone cannot take me somewhere. But, Iive at the edge of a city.
rose_moons1 points4y ago
i take buses most places.
TeamRedwine0 points4y ago
Throw your friends some gas money or buy them a lunch. It's not that hard.
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