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submitted by Yohsikkuhk
The New York State Commission for The Blind should not have access to peoples medical records. Agencies like Nyscb., Acvr., and Hrc. should only share information with each other if children underage are being abused, if a misdiagnosis has been corrected or needs to be corrected and if an adult wish to switch services for needs beyond confidentiality. Folks with vision loss need to have a separate group away from individuals with congenital blindness and also be given the option to deal with other losses outside the community as a group or privately.
vapidvision 4 points 3y ago
First off, you need to sign to give them access to your records. Are you suggesting that these state and federal agencies should ***never be allowed access*** to medical records, ***even with*** prior authorization of the person or the guardian of that person in the case that they are a minor or otherwise in need of a gaurenture?
I disagree with your assertion that people with "vision loss" and people with "congenital blindness" should be treated by separate entities. I say this as a public educator with a visual impairment and specific knowledge of how services are best provided. It is easy for service providers to communicate and coordinate for clients with similar needs. I don't think there is a meaningful distinction between the categories you have designated, but I am willing to explore why you think vision loss, due to injury for example, is fundamentally different that vision loss due to a congenital disorder?
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To your last point and the privatization of services, no one is stoping you from paying out of pocket for what the generous social benefits will not provide.
I disagree with your assertion that people with "vision loss" and people with "congenital blindness" should be treated by separate entities. I say this as a public educator with a visual impairment and specific knowledge of how services are best provided. It is easy for service providers to communicate and coordinate for clients with similar needs. I don't think there is a meaningful distinction between the categories you have designated, but I am willing to explore why you think vision loss, due to injury for example, is fundamentally different that vision loss due to a congenital disorder?
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To your last point and the privatization of services, no one is stoping you from paying out of pocket for what the generous social benefits will not provide.
Yohsikkuhk [OP] 0 points 3y ago
Racist against who people of color? First of all I graduated from a school that was 95 percent catholic therefore, I went to school with blind and visually impaired children. Second of all this is in response to the ninety-eight braill pages I received in the mail about the Nyscb teleconference. The document included everybody of all ethnic backgrounds . Nyscb have Teleconference meetings year about employment. Anybody with an ounce of brains knows why some blind people choose prostitution. Oh and by the way I just gave you a brief history from the 1800's to 2000's. Go do some research and ask questions before you start judging people.
vapidvision 3 points 3y ago
> Racist against who people of color? First of all I graduated from a school that was 95 percent catholic therefore, I went to school with blind and visually impaired children.
Please explain how there is a causal relationship between your school being 95% Catholic and it being a school with blind and visually impaired children.
The fact that the school was largely Catholic has nothing to do with whether or not the school would have blind attendees. I am assuming that this was a private school and didn't receive federal funding. According to the US Department of Education, schools that do not receive federal funding and are not required to be in compliance with the Individuals with Disabilities Act (IDEA). The IDEA is the primary law that requires publicly funded education institutes provide reasonable accommodations and modifications for students with disabilities to guarantee their Constitutional right to a free education.
Honestly, I don't give a crap about your opinion. You have made blatantly racist comments and did not apologize when I pointed them out.You make significant errors in your posts that obfuscate the points you are making; and you keep bringing up prostitution, which is a red herring. Some people go the grocery store to by the ingredients to make a hamburger; some people go to McDonalds to get a hamburger. Prostitution is none of your business. It doesn't affect you and it has nothing to do with issues in the blind community.
You say that you are not racist because you attended a teleconference that included people of color? Wow! I have never met someone who is so clearly a bastion of tolerance and acceptance! It is an honor. You are racist because you implied there should be a limit to the number of persons of color that can be helped. Period.
The historical snapshot of the treatment of the visually impaired on which you are fixated is somewhat representative of the period 1890-1960; at least as far as the treatment of persons with visual impairments in the public sector, there is insufficient accountability and regulation of the private sector.
This is not an insignificant amount of time. However, significant legislation and Supreme Court rulings came through in the 1960s to extend the rights of all persons and changed our country significantly. And, with individual experiences perhaps being different, the shifts in treatment, services, and benefits for the blind have consistently improved. We are not even close to equity of rights for all persons in this country, but we are getting closer.
Your anger baffles me. I hope you find the help you are looking for.
Please explain how there is a causal relationship between your school being 95% Catholic and it being a school with blind and visually impaired children.
The fact that the school was largely Catholic has nothing to do with whether or not the school would have blind attendees. I am assuming that this was a private school and didn't receive federal funding. According to the US Department of Education, schools that do not receive federal funding and are not required to be in compliance with the Individuals with Disabilities Act (IDEA). The IDEA is the primary law that requires publicly funded education institutes provide reasonable accommodations and modifications for students with disabilities to guarantee their Constitutional right to a free education.
Honestly, I don't give a crap about your opinion. You have made blatantly racist comments and did not apologize when I pointed them out.You make significant errors in your posts that obfuscate the points you are making; and you keep bringing up prostitution, which is a red herring. Some people go the grocery store to by the ingredients to make a hamburger; some people go to McDonalds to get a hamburger. Prostitution is none of your business. It doesn't affect you and it has nothing to do with issues in the blind community.
You say that you are not racist because you attended a teleconference that included people of color? Wow! I have never met someone who is so clearly a bastion of tolerance and acceptance! It is an honor. You are racist because you implied there should be a limit to the number of persons of color that can be helped. Period.
The historical snapshot of the treatment of the visually impaired on which you are fixated is somewhat representative of the period 1890-1960; at least as far as the treatment of persons with visual impairments in the public sector, there is insufficient accountability and regulation of the private sector.
This is not an insignificant amount of time. However, significant legislation and Supreme Court rulings came through in the 1960s to extend the rights of all persons and changed our country significantly. And, with individual experiences perhaps being different, the shifts in treatment, services, and benefits for the blind have consistently improved. We are not even close to equity of rights for all persons in this country, but we are getting closer.
Your anger baffles me. I hope you find the help you are looking for.
Yohsikkuhk [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Think you Reddit. I am looking forward to posting with interesting kind people to network with.
Yohsikkuhk [OP] -1 points 3y ago
The reason why it it is considered a loss when it comes to individuals like me who have Congenital loss is due to lack of support from childhood and that covers a multidimensional of problems. Similar problems and unresolved conflicts needs to be dealt with before the age of ten not after ten. The Nyscb uses an argumentative tactic; they are not hear to resolve conflicts with adults. The information is out dated anyway! The conflict really started when it was voted during the election to put every disability or handicap under The Special needs category. More than one agency for the blind have already moved out of Manhattan so what is left? Agencies filled with people who cant even teach finger spelling and ASL or will not even take the time to teach it. The excuse is you need site or some usable vision. Low tech equipment is not for everyone but has benefits That is why organizations like Acb, Nfb, Hadley School, Helen Keller,and Afb existed in the first place. Home schooling no longer allowed in most Western civilizations unless you came from a old school Christian environment or if a person was not forced on or off the reservation. Yes thee men and women who founded and started these agencies did not see it as a funeral or death sentence. They saw it as a chance to help others and themselves from becoming prostitutes or worse. Some people may not like what I am about to say. But how many black people are you suppose to train? and How many Indigenous people you think are lack? i said enough with out stepping on anybodies toes.
Sarinon 4 points 3y ago
English isn't your first language, is it? I'd recommend typing in a word processor and then copying to Reddit. The first part of having an intelligent discussion is to make sure the participants can understand each other.
Also, I just came here to say your derogatory statement about prostitutes is closed minded. It's true that some enter the profession through desperation or coercion, but many more choose it freely. And even were that not the case, prostitutes, especially in countries where it isn't legal, are a very vulnerable part of the population and deserve to be treated with care and respect.
Also, I just came here to say your derogatory statement about prostitutes is closed minded. It's true that some enter the profession through desperation or coercion, but many more choose it freely. And even were that not the case, prostitutes, especially in countries where it isn't legal, are a very vulnerable part of the population and deserve to be treated with care and respect.
vapidvision 2 points 3y ago
This is some incoherent bullshit. I am sorry the school system failed you. It seems like you had one bad experience and are generalizing.
As of 1993, it is legal to homeschool your child in all 50 states. Michigan, North Dakota, and Iowa were the last holdouts, but have allowed homeschooling since 1989. In "Western Civilization" I can only find one example of it being illegal to homeschool, and that is in Germany. You are wrong. In the UK and most of the EU it is legal to homeschool.
Your last two lines here are two of the most non-sequitur racist bullshit I have read. How many black people are we supposed to train? As many as fucking need the support. How many indigenous people should we help? Again, as many as need it. Why were either of those thing at all relevant you racist fuck?
You are misrepresenting how the state and federal government classify
As of 1993, it is legal to homeschool your child in all 50 states. Michigan, North Dakota, and Iowa were the last holdouts, but have allowed homeschooling since 1989. In "Western Civilization" I can only find one example of it being illegal to homeschool, and that is in Germany. You are wrong. In the UK and most of the EU it is legal to homeschool.
Your last two lines here are two of the most non-sequitur racist bullshit I have read. How many black people are we supposed to train? As many as fucking need the support. How many indigenous people should we help? Again, as many as need it. Why were either of those thing at all relevant you racist fuck?
You are misrepresenting how the state and federal government classify
razzretina 2 points 3y ago
I don't understand what you're getting at here. Providing medical documentation as proof of blindness is common nation wide. It's how we get all of our services. And if you sign a form saying another agency can have access to those records, well, you signed the form. That means you give consent for another agency to see those records. It's not giving access to your entire medical history, just the bit about you being blind. Maybe there's something I'm missing?
rebel_134 1 points 3y ago
My guess? This guy’s old, bitter, racist, and therefore a product of his time. As they say, you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
Yohsikkuhk [OP] 0 points 3y ago
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