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Face touching (self.Blind)
submitted by razzretina
This came up in another conversation, but has anyone else ever dealt with this kind of thing from the public? I don't know where people got this idea that we want to touch their faces or that we even care what they look like, but I've always found it really embarrassing. Especially after a stranger grabbed my hand and plopped it right on her face in public. It was extremely gross and weird for me.
I did know a guy who grabbed people's faces, but it was exclusively to mess with them. He'd use it as an excuse to honk your nose or try and pick you up by the head. He may not have been exactly all there, but he is the only real life example of face touching I've ever met.
So have any of you dealt with any fallout because of this stereotype? Does anyone actually do it (please say no ha ha)? Where did this terrible idea come from and why do sighted people think it's so romantic?
grapejelly6 20 points 3y ago
I’m legally blind but I usually don’t tell people that. I wear very strong prescription glasses that well don’t make me see 20/20. (It is so hard explaining to people that at some point glasses don’t give you perfect vision) Anyway I took my glasses off at lunch to clean them real quick one day. And my friend was all like you should feel my face so you know what I look like. So I said ok. And I pretending for a few seconds like oh yea wow your eyebrows are nice. Then I felt her cheek and smacked her in the face and told to stop being a idiot.
razzretina [OP] 6 points 3y ago
YES! I've told friends that I will only feel their face if I'm about to punch them. :D
bscross32 8 points 3y ago
I have no idea why they think we actually do that.
CloudyBeep 12 points 3y ago
Movies, and to a lesser extent books.
bscross32 3 points 3y ago
It makes very little sense to me though. If it isn't socially acceptable for a random stranger to come up and touch someone's face, why would having a lack of sight alter that?
CloudyBeep 9 points 3y ago
• Sighted people like looking at things. They use their eyes.
• Blind people can't see things, so they feel things.
• Sighted people like looking at other people's faces.
Therefore...
• Blind people must feel people's faces.
bscross32 5 points 3y ago
Yeah, even if I did feel someone's face, I doubt that I could identify them by that alone
razzretina [OP] 3 points 3y ago
That makes a frustrating amount were of sense. Sighted people logic makes me so sad sometimes. They just leave out the common sense part that 1 having a hand on your face is really uncomfortable, 2 touching a stranger's face is just plain gross (they should give it a try and see how they like it :D) .
Kamirose 3 points 3y ago
I know I got that idea from learning about Helen Keller. As a kid I read a historical fiction novel about her and it said she felt people's faces to see them. Now I know it was actually to "hear" them, in that it was how she learned to speak words by feeling their mouths as they spoke to see how the words were formed.
bscross32 1 points 3y ago
That created monsters lol.
pterofly 7 points 3y ago
Luckily I've never had to deal with this. Yet? (Learned to always accept there's a possibility with these kinds of things)


I don't actually know how I would react if someone grabbed my hands and put them on their face. Like I know I'd be horrified. I'm usually pretty good at being polite but I'm pretty sure that would go out the window.


Maybe I could convince them to let my guide dog feel their face instead haha
afraidofdust 6 points 3y ago
It's Hollywood bullshit.
surulia 5 points 3y ago
There's a blind artist who makes sculptures of people by feeling their faces and a video about them went viral many years ago on Facebook. I'm guessing that may be where they're getting the idea. Maybe not. Still weird tho.


Edit: I tried to find the clip, but I can't find it. Was probably on some kind of page like Now This or something
jimmycarr1 6 points 3y ago
The idea was around even before that. It happens in the movie "Dude Where's My Car" and that predates Facebook, so I'm guessing the idea has been around a lot longer.
aaronespinozaca 5 points 3y ago
People think we can picture what they look like by touching their face.
P.S
We don't know how you look by doing thatand it doesn't work. I also remember some blind girl doing it in Family Guy.
razzretina [OP] 3 points 3y ago
Family Guy has the least funny blind jokes I've ever seen so I'm not too surprised there.
AllHarlowsEve 4 points 3y ago
I was out to eat with my mother, aunt, and cousin once and one of my mom's coworkers came up to me. She was the generic perky 20-something with a degree in early childhood ed and a minor in psychology, with a name like McKenna or Becky or something. Just the most stereotypical basic white girl, with the "omg!!!!!!!!!" voice to match.

She squealed about seeing my mom and pretty much immediately grabbed my hands from the table and forced them on her face.

I'm pretty sure I made a "wtf are you doing?" face before I reigned it in, but I let go as soon as she let go of my hands with something like "Uhh I remember what you look like...."

I had a few exes ask me, and I've felt some people's faces just to try and make some rough idea of what they look like, mostly as a joke, but I feel like I do have a somewhat firm grip on what my boyfriend looks like even though we met after I went blind.
Jennimae4u 1 points 3y ago
My boyfriend and I met in school like 20 years ago, then got to see each other about 10 years ago. We lost contact and reconnected a little over a year ago and now we are in a very deep committed relationship. He says he remembers what I look like, but that doesn’t matter to me. Because he sees the real me, who I really am. I’ve never been so in tune with someone like this in my entire life. Oh I forgot to mention he went blind almost 5 years ago. With him I’ve gotten to experience so many wonderful things. Do you have any do’s and dont’s you wouldn’t mind sharing with me?
SpikeTheCookie 3 points 3y ago
There are numerous pivotal scenes in all the early and mid-century Hollywood movies that featured blindness or someone going blind, where the blind person does face-feeling.


These pivotal scenes often were part of a major plot turning point (learning to finally communicate or finally falling in love), so they make a huge impact on the audience.


Since most people have never met a blind person (which is impressive considering that this is not a really rare thing), they fall back on what they've learned from their culture as the truth they need to apply.
razzretina [OP] 2 points 3y ago
That sounds about right although I can say that blindness is a lot more rare than you might think, at least in the US. We’re the second rarest disability according to the latest Department of Education data. The only disability rarer than blindness is deaf blindness. So most people have never and will never meet a blind person in life. That’s why all these stereotypes can be so obnoxious; they get applied to us directly because people just don’t know anything else about us.
BlueRock956 2 points 3y ago
I was hanging out with sighted friends and this came up. She asked me, so why have you never asked me if you could touch my face... I responded without missing a beat.... “I’d rather touch your boobs.”
It was all in good fun.
grinchnight14 1 points 8m ago
I gotta try that sometime, thanks for that one.
Rahawk02 2 points 3y ago
My dad and uncle are both blind . My Uncle was a face toucher (he passed) . He said he wanted to feel people’s smiles. It was uncomfortable to say the least.
Marconius 2 points 3y ago
I only went blind 5 years ago and was hyper-visual before the vision loss. I've never had someone randomly make me touch their face out in public, but I have touched people's faces in private to give myself a sense of what they look like. I'm always curious to hear how people describe themselves physically since it gives me an imagined visual mental map of them. I used to be bad with names but I'd always remember faces when I could see, so listening to description and face touching is probably my brain's attempt to make up for what I lost. That being said, I don't touch the faces of everyone I meet; I only do so in much more intimate settings.
TrippingWithNoSight 2 points 3y ago
Yup. A prostitute in Vegas tried to get me to touch her face. Super weird.
djflex90 1 points 3y ago
I know a few people that graduated from the school for the deaf and blind here in Virginia and they don’t exactly enforce the most socially acceptable behavior. I’ve had multiple people tell me that they’ve been told that feeling faces is OK
oncenightvaler 1 points 3y ago
I actually saw this in the one Ray Charles biography movie, though it was probably partly myth even there. I had never met anyone in real life who had done this and definitely never considered doing it myself.
FiverNZen 1 points 3y ago
I have no idea where society even gets this idea from, but I agree that it’s awkward, makes me feel super uncomfortable and just ...almost creepy/a violation of personal space if that makes sense. I also have encountered people who’ve told me to feel their clothing etc in public and that’s also a bit strange. Just describe it maybe?
vwlsmssng 1 points 3y ago
Blame $1 video.

I've linked above to the relevant point in the video.

The following description is from the beginning of the video:

A drama teacher (Lionel Richie] is teaching a class of students, his eye is constantly drawn to a pretty young woman in the class.

Through the video we are told that she is very talented, acting - music - sculpture - dance, and less subtly that she is sight impaired, clumsily walking with a short white cane someone gives her (I think her tapping technique improves later), eventually we see her reading a large book of braille which drives the point home.

At the same time the teacher (Lionel Richie) sings of his unrequited love as he watches her in various classes and tries unsuccessfully to get closer, even speechlessly calling her at her own home. I think you could call this stalking nowadays.

This is the point the link above jumps to.

The teacher is summoned to the sculpture classroom where he finds the young woman has completed a life like bust in red clay of the teacher.

"I wanted you to see it so many times, but I finally think it is done", she says.

"Tell me what you think of it?"

He responds, "Oh, its wonderful."

"This is how I see you!", she implores as she reaches out and feels his face.

There is a hiatus as the guitar sings and weeps.

Suddenly Lionel pulls her hands from his face and starts singing again, "Hello. Is it me you're looking for?"
Fade to black.

$1
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