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Text editor / IDE for mac (self.Blind)
submitted by CloudsOfMagellan
Does anyone know good accessible text editors or IDEs for web development on a Mac?
I've been using text mate but find it limited in the available bundles.
Also does anyone know if it's possible to have voiceover pronounce the number of tabs and or spaces at the start of a line
So
"4 tabs"
instead of
"Tab tab tab tab"
Any help would be appreciated
devinprater 4 points 3y ago
Emacs, with Emacspeak.
AndAdapt 2 points 3y ago
I switched from TextMate to emacs with emacspeak. Emacs is great, you may switch for it to be an IDE but you quickly end up achieving most things within emacs.
Edit: forgot to mention emacs can announce preceding spaces like you want, can also do it using tones.
CloudsOfMagellan [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Do you find that emacspeak conflicts with other packages?
I've been trying to use lsp for JavaScript but it refuses to work, I've commented everything out in my emacs.d/init.el but for the set up code for emacspeak, adding to the list of package archives and setting up lsp and company-lsp but autocompletion still refuses to work properly
AndAdapt 1 points 3y ago
I did have a few issues with code completion. Iirc I searched around github issues on the respective packages for solutions.
CloudsOfMagellan [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Is your init file public?
AndAdapt 1 points 3y ago
When at my computer tomorrow will put it on a git repository for you
CloudsOfMagellan [OP] 1 points 3y ago
How do you install it on a Mac?
And is there anything I need to know to use it well?
AndAdapt 2 points 3y ago
These are the instructions i used:

https://gist.github.com/AmandaKLacy/bbdcdaa9bef885bbafe25d8a0f8432af

In terms of using it well. It takes time. The learning curve may be a little steep if you have only used something like TextMate. It is however, more than worth it. I now have an IDE that supports code completion, code suggestions, help file etc, all accessible and all within the editor. You dont even end up navigating away from the line of code you are writing. It is as close as we can get to the sighted equivelant.

Google will be your friend when starting out. Follow and read the official emacs and emacspeak guides
CloudsOfMagellan [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Thank you,
I'm away for a few weeks but would you mind if I ask some questions when I return
AndAdapt 1 points 3y ago
Sure, feel free to ask when you get back.
BlindGuyNW 2 points 3y ago
Seconding Emacs, with Emacspeak. It's a great combination, and the mac is probably the easiest platform to use it on.
Marconius 1 points 3y ago
I've had no trouble with TextEdit and Xcode. There is a switch you can toggle in the VoiceOver settings that will count punctuation within the Speech > Verbosity settings. I code with tabs and it will tell me the number of indents rather than announcing them all individually. I tried out Coda for web development, but just started doing everything in TextEdit since it was fast and efficient for how I interact with the environment.
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