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Do you have any thoughts? (self.Blind)
submitted by ARawpper
I have never met or spoken to a blind person before, but I know you must have brilliant ideas. For example, you must hear, the world, music, in a completely different way. You must "see" the world so much differently.
QUESTION: Do you have any thoughts? I want to hear them. I want to understand the world right now. I haven't gotten to ask many people this question, besides asking my mother(probably has borderline) or SO(has ADHD). They always come up with these brilliant ideas that I never thought about or saw before.
I just want to hear more, because it's hard stepping outside my brain. My heart I think I have mastered, I always put myself in people's shoes, but I think I'm doing it wrongly because I am not aware of how their brain works first. Just their heart..
QUESTION: Do you have any thoughts? I want to hear them. I want to understand the world right now. I haven't gotten to ask many people this question, besides asking my mother(probably has borderline) or SO(has ADHD). They always come up with these brilliant ideas that I never thought about or saw before.
I just want to hear more, because it's hard stepping outside my brain. My heart I think I have mastered, I always put myself in people's shoes, but I think I'm doing it wrongly because I am not aware of how their brain works first. Just their heart..
quanin 5 points 3y ago
Okay, here goes.
1. What a weird post.
2. Oh look, customer's Exchange server's taking a crap again.
3. I seriously need coffee.
... What do you mean those aren't the thoughts you were talking about?
1. What a weird post.
2. Oh look, customer's Exchange server's taking a crap again.
3. I seriously need coffee.
... What do you mean those aren't the thoughts you were talking about?
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
1. Haha, I realize it's a weird post. I know I'm weird, but I've decided to say fuck it and be myself anyway. I can do that here anonymously on Reddit. Without the fear of someone I Love seeing it and getting worried for no reason since they don't understand I feel 100% fine and happiest I have ever been.
2. I can relate to the customer's exchange servers as well, I usually don't even bother exchanging stuff because of it, I just sell it to someone else instead. (Not broken stuff obviously, just clothes that are too small or big). So much easier when you have anxiety to even post back a package you paid alot for but you rather give it away than have to interact. 😂
3. I also need coffee man, thank you for the reminder.
Wait.. did you hear that?
2. I can relate to the customer's exchange servers as well, I usually don't even bother exchanging stuff because of it, I just sell it to someone else instead. (Not broken stuff obviously, just clothes that are too small or big). So much easier when you have anxiety to even post back a package you paid alot for but you rather give it away than have to interact. 😂
3. I also need coffee man, thank you for the reminder.
Wait.. did you hear that?
razzretina 4 points 3y ago
Erm. I think I understand what you’re getting at and that you’re just curious, but the wording of this whole post comes off as romanticising a lot of untrue stereotypes. We’re just people, man, same as you. We think in similar patterns and there’s nothing different about music to any of us unless someone here is a musician. If there’s something more concrete you want to know, just ask. :) Do we have thoughts about what?
ARawpper [OP] 2 points 3y ago
I know, I want to learn about you so I can change my distant idea of you. Make you feel more real to me, so I can treat you like my neighbor, just another dude or girl. But I do honestly think it's cool, the documentary of the boy that turned blind and could echo locate. I don't mean to romanticize, I have just seen with my own eyes, a blind person doing something I never have been able to. You are just like me in most ways, but then there are things you can do that I can't. I also am sorry, I speak, think and talk like poetry. So if it sounds wrong, I don't mean it. Sorry.
I want to know your thoughts about everything 😂 But not because you are blind, but because you probably are just in a way different lite than me.
Maybe, what do you most enjoy doing on your free time?
I want to know your thoughts about everything 😂 But not because you are blind, but because you probably are just in a way different lite than me.
Maybe, what do you most enjoy doing on your free time?
razzretina 3 points 3y ago
Now that I see the context you're coming from, your first post makes more sense and that's a pretty cool outlook on other people. :) A few of us, like me, can be a bit curmudgeonly after years of people being kind of terrible out of ignorance; I didn't mean to take that out on you. :)
Haha right now all i'm doing in my free time is jiu jitsu and trying to hold it together. Life's rough for everybody sometimes.
The blind people who can echolocate interest me too. It's rather a controversial subject within our community. Not everyone can do it, either. You're as able to echolocate as I am. :) (Probably moreso; I'm terrible at it even for some of the basic mobility skills that almost everyone can use it for. XD)
Haha right now all i'm doing in my free time is jiu jitsu and trying to hold it together. Life's rough for everybody sometimes.
The blind people who can echolocate interest me too. It's rather a controversial subject within our community. Not everyone can do it, either. You're as able to echolocate as I am. :) (Probably moreso; I'm terrible at it even for some of the basic mobility skills that almost everyone can use it for. XD)
ARawpper [OP] 2 points 3y ago
I was ready for anything really, I just wanted someone to truely look at me and respond honestly to me, you did that, as a blind person. :') ❤️ So no, you didn't take anything out on me, I was relieved you wrote what you did. Because I feel the same way you do, almost identically but probably with nuances there as well but I could not sense a single "Lie" in your post.
Jiu jitsu sounds cool, I was actually thinking about picking up some sort of martial arts, did aikido and capoeira a little bit when younger but felt so awkward with the people there so I quit. But I think I would handle it better today as a matured adult.
Aren't we all at these trying times, holding it together. Holding everyones world together. I hope you can rest a little easier knowing that you aren't alone in fighting for those things you wrote down.
I'm sorry I didn't know that, I just have seen blind people with walking sticks in movies and they would walk with over the road. But the more I think about it. maybe you have a furry friend that also helps in leading the way? I didn't mean to offend, I sometimes am very clumsy with what I say. It must be hard to learn, I tried a little bit earlier today with covering my eyes and putting on cricket sound in background and I couldn't "see" anything, no echo location. But I am honestly interested in trying to learn somehow. I have always had to find my own way of learning things, like now, I am brain mapping every thought and idea I come up with so I can connect the dots instead of them getting drowned out in the hurricane inside my head.
Maybe there is a specific noise, frequency, tone needed to send out the proper sound to sense objects. Maybe the bats who can echo locate have a clue in there. Okay I have to stop now, because I will keep going to late. xD
I will follow you and maybe we can pick this up another time? You have very interesting thoughts.
Goodnight :) ❤️
Jiu jitsu sounds cool, I was actually thinking about picking up some sort of martial arts, did aikido and capoeira a little bit when younger but felt so awkward with the people there so I quit. But I think I would handle it better today as a matured adult.
Aren't we all at these trying times, holding it together. Holding everyones world together. I hope you can rest a little easier knowing that you aren't alone in fighting for those things you wrote down.
I'm sorry I didn't know that, I just have seen blind people with walking sticks in movies and they would walk with over the road. But the more I think about it. maybe you have a furry friend that also helps in leading the way? I didn't mean to offend, I sometimes am very clumsy with what I say. It must be hard to learn, I tried a little bit earlier today with covering my eyes and putting on cricket sound in background and I couldn't "see" anything, no echo location. But I am honestly interested in trying to learn somehow. I have always had to find my own way of learning things, like now, I am brain mapping every thought and idea I come up with so I can connect the dots instead of them getting drowned out in the hurricane inside my head.
Maybe there is a specific noise, frequency, tone needed to send out the proper sound to sense objects. Maybe the bats who can echo locate have a clue in there. Okay I have to stop now, because I will keep going to late. xD
I will follow you and maybe we can pick this up another time? You have very interesting thoughts.
Goodnight :) ❤️
razzretina 2 points 3y ago
I don't recommend trying to navigate with your eyes closed without any training. You can get really hurt. Most people who echolocate still use a white cane or guide dog; it's just an extra tool for those who can use it. :) Almost all of us here on r/blind have had years or decades of mobility training so we're as safe as we can be when we travel.
Martial arts is great and I recommend it. :) I used to be in teakwondo but as my vision changed, it got harder to do because it's a very sight-oriented sport. I find that the guys at the jiu jitsu gym are really chill and funny. A lot of that sport is just getting desensitised to things that scare most people, like being strangled by a big guy, so you can think through and know how to get out. Or how to score points in competition.
Thank you for the compliment! :) I've been told I think too much, but not that I have cool thoughts. XD You've got some pretty good ones yourself and I can see your curiosity shining through. :)
Martial arts is great and I recommend it. :) I used to be in teakwondo but as my vision changed, it got harder to do because it's a very sight-oriented sport. I find that the guys at the jiu jitsu gym are really chill and funny. A lot of that sport is just getting desensitised to things that scare most people, like being strangled by a big guy, so you can think through and know how to get out. Or how to score points in competition.
Thank you for the compliment! :) I've been told I think too much, but not that I have cool thoughts. XD You've got some pretty good ones yourself and I can see your curiosity shining through. :)
winkta 4 points 3y ago
i’ve never had a thought before, but will certainly keep you posted in the event that i do.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
I mean no offense really. I am struggling to connect with anyone for some reason.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
I'm sorry, I realize now the title is fucking stupid. I have been posting entire walls of texts in my subreddits r/Depression r/Aspergers r/ADHD and r/Rant but noone can see them for some reason. I thought it was because my titles weren't "provoking enough". Can I change the title to: "If no one answers me honestly now, I will become selectively mute again."
CloudyBeep 2 points 3y ago
I saw a post like this in r/deaf yesterday. I think you need to see a therapist, because you're posting some strange things.
And BTW, I think you're confusing selective mutism and elective mutism. Selective mutism is when people can't speak because of anxiety or other related conditions; elective mutism is a conscious choice not to speak. You cannot "become selectively mute again" because selective mutism is out of the control of the people who have it.
And BTW, I think you're confusing selective mutism and elective mutism. Selective mutism is when people can't speak because of anxiety or other related conditions; elective mutism is a conscious choice not to speak. You cannot "become selectively mute again" because selective mutism is out of the control of the people who have it.
ARawpper [OP] 0 points 3y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_mutism
Read up on it a little, it is only the top of the iceberg however because like it says, no cause is really known for real. How could it be? When noone listens to those who have it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aspergers/comments/d8htso/intense_world_autistic_brains_create_42_more/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Hypersensitive people who can't shut their brain or heart off.
I hope you mean well with your comment, but please educate yourself before writing. Sensitive people can think you have an actual idea of what you're talking about, but you don't.
I have seen maybe 10 different therapists/psychologist my entire life and none of them in my childhood, even though that's when I was completely mute in school. This wasn't by conscious choice, I was only a small child trying not to get yelled at or looked at funny because I was telling the truth or seeing the beauty in the world around me. You think these are strange things that I am posting? I always thought the fact that you who never once asked yourself "why is this small child hiding under couches and choosing not to/ unable to speak from fear of hurting others or having to be looked at strangely another time. I find those people more strange than me. Do you ever leave your own reality? Because every single person has their own you know. Now I have had 12 since I turned 13 and refused to go to school anymore. I locked myself in my room. I didn't speak to my mother anymore. I didn't want her to even look at me. I was confused. I didn't feel like I had a choice. Now you see, imagine being someone ultra sensitive in a world of rocks bashing against you. Imagine that you are in someone else's shoes.
Now, I was never diagnosed. They simply thought I was the strange one I guess my entire childhood. Every adult, every teacher, every classmate.
So from 13, years, when I completely crashed, unable to leave my room even for weeks, I have had maybe 10 different therapists, they would circulate because everyone was moving to Stockholm for work. They never had the time to get to know me. The only person who even mentioned Asperger's was a newly graduated young man who asked if I wanted to take an IQ test. I did. I had Asperger's. I am amazed at myself for even doing the test. I had refused to ear properly for weeks, I couldn't sleep. A doctor said a few years later my iron levels were so low that he was surprised I could even stand up, if I had been an adult I would have been unable to get out of bed. Exhausted, drained, without food, without sleep, without anyone who would listen, I took a test and he said I did amazingly great. He hadn't been able to drag anything out of me but maybe he saw my eyes that kept glancing at the corner. That I was scared to look him in the eyes to see how he thought I was crazy. I have lost count for how many I saw but only 3 of them did any good, the others caused me more harm. They told my mom to unscrew the door to my room. I never got to have any sense of privacy or safety. But I pulled through. Despite them. The drugs they pushed down my throat made me want to die. I was cutting all over my arms. Noone still would listen. Years of this shit.
I pulled through despite everyone else seemingly wanting me not to. Well eexpect the young graduate, he seemed to really care and understand. He had to move to Stockholm though. Here I am 10 years later, still breathing and I feel confused looking around. How am I always the most energetic in the room? Why am I the one singing in the buss, drumming to my music. Closing my eyes on the sun? Maybe because I had to cope with the fact that I only had myself against the world, only needed myself and that safety. I don't know.
Maybe finally being an honest person had some sort of golden lining.
The recent therapist, I saw a few months ago, she was the best one yet, she actually finished my healing from the trauma of my childhood forced mutism by my surroundings. She wasn't a therapist, she was just a social worker. She gave me so many good strategies to think about with coping with stress.
I am normal today. I speak the most in class, I write the most online. I see myself as 100% healthy. It's the world that needs help.
If you read through this entire post, then I applaud you. You managed to stare the truth in the face. I want the world to change for the 1% of kids like me, who aren't even diagnosed, no help, but they get treated like shit. By people who look at them like they are crazy when they are just honest and very sensitive to emotions. They think all night, they ponder existential questions. They want to know how to help their family not scream and lie.
I am happy, I will never be silenced again. If I go mute again this time it is by choice, because I want to be a voice for those kids, teenagers, adults, elderly.
Awareness. Goodnight. ❤️
Read up on it a little, it is only the top of the iceberg however because like it says, no cause is really known for real. How could it be? When noone listens to those who have it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aspergers/comments/d8htso/intense_world_autistic_brains_create_42_more/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Hypersensitive people who can't shut their brain or heart off.
I hope you mean well with your comment, but please educate yourself before writing. Sensitive people can think you have an actual idea of what you're talking about, but you don't.
I have seen maybe 10 different therapists/psychologist my entire life and none of them in my childhood, even though that's when I was completely mute in school. This wasn't by conscious choice, I was only a small child trying not to get yelled at or looked at funny because I was telling the truth or seeing the beauty in the world around me. You think these are strange things that I am posting? I always thought the fact that you who never once asked yourself "why is this small child hiding under couches and choosing not to/ unable to speak from fear of hurting others or having to be looked at strangely another time. I find those people more strange than me. Do you ever leave your own reality? Because every single person has their own you know. Now I have had 12 since I turned 13 and refused to go to school anymore. I locked myself in my room. I didn't speak to my mother anymore. I didn't want her to even look at me. I was confused. I didn't feel like I had a choice. Now you see, imagine being someone ultra sensitive in a world of rocks bashing against you. Imagine that you are in someone else's shoes.
Now, I was never diagnosed. They simply thought I was the strange one I guess my entire childhood. Every adult, every teacher, every classmate.
So from 13, years, when I completely crashed, unable to leave my room even for weeks, I have had maybe 10 different therapists, they would circulate because everyone was moving to Stockholm for work. They never had the time to get to know me. The only person who even mentioned Asperger's was a newly graduated young man who asked if I wanted to take an IQ test. I did. I had Asperger's. I am amazed at myself for even doing the test. I had refused to ear properly for weeks, I couldn't sleep. A doctor said a few years later my iron levels were so low that he was surprised I could even stand up, if I had been an adult I would have been unable to get out of bed. Exhausted, drained, without food, without sleep, without anyone who would listen, I took a test and he said I did amazingly great. He hadn't been able to drag anything out of me but maybe he saw my eyes that kept glancing at the corner. That I was scared to look him in the eyes to see how he thought I was crazy. I have lost count for how many I saw but only 3 of them did any good, the others caused me more harm. They told my mom to unscrew the door to my room. I never got to have any sense of privacy or safety. But I pulled through. Despite them. The drugs they pushed down my throat made me want to die. I was cutting all over my arms. Noone still would listen. Years of this shit.
I pulled through despite everyone else seemingly wanting me not to. Well eexpect the young graduate, he seemed to really care and understand. He had to move to Stockholm though. Here I am 10 years later, still breathing and I feel confused looking around. How am I always the most energetic in the room? Why am I the one singing in the buss, drumming to my music. Closing my eyes on the sun? Maybe because I had to cope with the fact that I only had myself against the world, only needed myself and that safety. I don't know.
Maybe finally being an honest person had some sort of golden lining.
The recent therapist, I saw a few months ago, she was the best one yet, she actually finished my healing from the trauma of my childhood forced mutism by my surroundings. She wasn't a therapist, she was just a social worker. She gave me so many good strategies to think about with coping with stress.
I am normal today. I speak the most in class, I write the most online. I see myself as 100% healthy. It's the world that needs help.
If you read through this entire post, then I applaud you. You managed to stare the truth in the face. I want the world to change for the 1% of kids like me, who aren't even diagnosed, no help, but they get treated like shit. By people who look at them like they are crazy when they are just honest and very sensitive to emotions. They think all night, they ponder existential questions. They want to know how to help their family not scream and lie.
I am happy, I will never be silenced again. If I go mute again this time it is by choice, because I want to be a voice for those kids, teenagers, adults, elderly.
Awareness. Goodnight. ❤️
bscross32 2 points 3y ago
Maybe you got shadow banned or something? idk.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
This is indeed my first thought, I have never posted such provoking texts before without at least 1 negative comment. Haha. I was hoping for a negative one too.. but yeah we shall see tomorrow. I wont give up that easily. I will not be silenced again. :)
P00ld3ad 1 points 3y ago
>if no one answers me honestly now, I will become selectively mute again
I think you mean electively mute. Selective mutism is a severe anxiety disorder where people experience such severe anxiety in certain social situations that they find themselves completely unable to speak. And it’s not voluntary. They don’t choose when to go mute.
I think you mean electively mute. Selective mutism is a severe anxiety disorder where people experience such severe anxiety in certain social situations that they find themselves completely unable to speak. And it’s not voluntary. They don’t choose when to go mute.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Exactly.. thank you.. ❤️ they are the same.
P00ld3ad 1 points 3y ago
No lol. They aren’t.
Elective mutism=voluntary
Selective mutism=involuntary (anxiety disorder)
Elective mutism=voluntary
Selective mutism=involuntary (anxiety disorder)
oncenightvaler 3 points 3y ago
A lot of people ask me how I perceive the world. I often use this poem: The Blind Men and the Elephant by John Saxe. In the poem each of the blind men can only touch a bit of the elephant and thus don't get the whole picture but I explain that what I always try to do is to get all the small pieces and then put them together in a mental map mental picture.
I know a house room by room, I know a kitchen drawer by drawer, I know a city street by street.
I know a house room by room, I know a kitchen drawer by drawer, I know a city street by street.
bradley22 3 points 3y ago
I’m excited for some glasses I’m going to get in a couple of weeks called sarah.
They use AI and cameras to help the blind.
Features include: step by step directions, with the ability to tell us what roads to cross.
The ability to recognize objects.
They will be able to read money, telling us what bill is what and coins too.
They can read text, menus, signs, things like that.
They use AI and cameras to help the blind.
Features include: step by step directions, with the ability to tell us what roads to cross.
The ability to recognize objects.
They will be able to read money, telling us what bill is what and coins too.
They can read text, menus, signs, things like that.
Broken_seeker 3 points 3y ago
Got a link to these?
bradley22 2 points 3y ago
No sorry but I will post it as soon as I do.
When they come out, they will be releaced in Europe and Asia, i’m not sure when they will be released in other countries.
When they come out, they will be releaced in Europe and Asia, i’m not sure when they will be released in other countries.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Waow. I have to read up on that, that sounds like it's from a Sci-Fi movie. I am so happy for you, this is what we need conversations for. I would never have known otherwise that that's a thing someone is passionately working on. Faith in humanity rejuvenated.
If it's okay I would love to hear how they work for you when they arrive. Because that does sound like magic to me haha. When does technology cease to be technology and become magic?
Sounds like a huge time saver.
I am heading off for now, but keep me posted. Goodnight. ❤️
If it's okay I would love to hear how they work for you when they arrive. Because that does sound like magic to me haha. When does technology cease to be technology and become magic?
Sounds like a huge time saver.
I am heading off for now, but keep me posted. Goodnight. ❤️
bradley22 2 points 3y ago
It’s going to be awesome!
I’ve saved this post and if I make a recording of the device, I’ll post it here along with the website.
Tech is magic :) goodnight.
Edit: words.
I’ve saved this post and if I make a recording of the device, I’ll post it here along with the website.
Tech is magic :) goodnight.
Edit: words.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
❤️
bscross32 3 points 3y ago
Is this all there is? How can we unlock the higher levels of being where we can shed our corporeal bodies and travel the multiverse in all its forms and dimensions. How can we learn to manipulate the space around us, to travel faster than light, to learn to manipulate time. Maybe FTL is really beyond possible, and we would need to concentrate on something like space folding to traverse vast distances. What if all that we are is like one big nexus to all that we could be?Everything we do, say, or even think. Everything we do creates millions of forces and counterforces. Then, we need to face the possible reality that every decision we've ever not made has been made by someone in a parallel universe and all the universes form the one large multiverse.
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Coming back to the nexus, can we learn how to control our thoughts? Can we learn to unite the people of Earth so that our purpose becomes one. If so, how long will it take. At a 100 years I would estimate, but that's fairly generous and it will probably be more.
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We cast ourselves out into space with our instruments. We probe using our telescopes out into other galaxies, nebulae and other solar systems. We want to know why other life is not presenting itself to us. But who are we that makes us important enough to warrant attention. If someone new moves into your neighborhood, maybe you go over and welcome them with a box of cookies or a 6-pack of beer. It's a nice gesture, but it isn't required. What if they don't want to know us. Would you want to know us in the state we are now if you saw things from the outside looking in? Give us a thousand more years maybe, but right now, even at the best, we're still half savage.
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From their point of observation, centuries on Earth may pass as seconds for them. If so, could you still not see the savagery? It's funny that we fight to cure things like cancer, but our species is the cancer right now. Think about it. Cancer is invasive to the body and the immune system doesn't know how to effectively deal with it because the cancer cells are tricking it to think they are friend when they really are foe. Now, imagine you, as the lifeforms we have never seen. You are at your post on a station that's been made invisible to the Earth people. You see things on your screen passing rapidly by. We go from the roman days to gladiatorial combat to the early 1800s, and then you start to see the technology. Look at the explosion of technology from 1900 to 2000. We actually learned how to fly and the first automobile came out in mass production in 1903. Imagine that a bit differently. A baby learns to crawl and walk in the same day. Give it a bit more than a decade and our flying machines are being used to shoot down other flying machines. The same will happen later on in the 40's as well, but then, we learned to split the atom, and we dropped bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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Look at the concrete encroaching from your post. Look at the animals forced from the habitats and having to either fall back or learn to adapt and survive in an urban environment. The Earth is the body and we are the invaders. So, now your supervisor calls down to you and puts the decision in your hand to make first contact with Earth. Would you do it?
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Now onto the meat of the post. OP, is this what you wanted? Because I'm hardly the first to think along these lines. Just because I have a visual impairment doesn't make me some oracle of wisdom. You're not going to find magic in lack of sight. The magic has always been here for you to find in yourself and around you.
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When you romanticize blindness or any other disability, you're essentially narrowing your own horizons. You're saying that there is an archetype for blind people, physically handicapped people, deaf people, mentally challenged people, and so on. You're also saying that we should fit within the parameters of that original pattern. Any derivation is just... not permitted.
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Now, I don't think that's your intent, but I wanted to make you aware of how that comes off, at least to me. Most of us are just doing what you would do, living our lives. We have good days and bad ones. But at the end of the day, there's more commonality to be found between the blind and the sighted than there are differences. For a long time, there has been this gulf dividing our two groups. Yours, the able-bodied is much more massive than ours. We live in a world where we get by only because the sighted have decided to put together resources for us. We still have to fight for new things. It's a battle for every bit of legal precedent that is set, or every new right that you all say we can have. But really, there doesn't have to be this gulf separating us.
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Coming back to the nexus, can we learn how to control our thoughts? Can we learn to unite the people of Earth so that our purpose becomes one. If so, how long will it take. At a 100 years I would estimate, but that's fairly generous and it will probably be more.
​
We cast ourselves out into space with our instruments. We probe using our telescopes out into other galaxies, nebulae and other solar systems. We want to know why other life is not presenting itself to us. But who are we that makes us important enough to warrant attention. If someone new moves into your neighborhood, maybe you go over and welcome them with a box of cookies or a 6-pack of beer. It's a nice gesture, but it isn't required. What if they don't want to know us. Would you want to know us in the state we are now if you saw things from the outside looking in? Give us a thousand more years maybe, but right now, even at the best, we're still half savage.
​
From their point of observation, centuries on Earth may pass as seconds for them. If so, could you still not see the savagery? It's funny that we fight to cure things like cancer, but our species is the cancer right now. Think about it. Cancer is invasive to the body and the immune system doesn't know how to effectively deal with it because the cancer cells are tricking it to think they are friend when they really are foe. Now, imagine you, as the lifeforms we have never seen. You are at your post on a station that's been made invisible to the Earth people. You see things on your screen passing rapidly by. We go from the roman days to gladiatorial combat to the early 1800s, and then you start to see the technology. Look at the explosion of technology from 1900 to 2000. We actually learned how to fly and the first automobile came out in mass production in 1903. Imagine that a bit differently. A baby learns to crawl and walk in the same day. Give it a bit more than a decade and our flying machines are being used to shoot down other flying machines. The same will happen later on in the 40's as well, but then, we learned to split the atom, and we dropped bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
​
Look at the concrete encroaching from your post. Look at the animals forced from the habitats and having to either fall back or learn to adapt and survive in an urban environment. The Earth is the body and we are the invaders. So, now your supervisor calls down to you and puts the decision in your hand to make first contact with Earth. Would you do it?
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Now onto the meat of the post. OP, is this what you wanted? Because I'm hardly the first to think along these lines. Just because I have a visual impairment doesn't make me some oracle of wisdom. You're not going to find magic in lack of sight. The magic has always been here for you to find in yourself and around you.
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When you romanticize blindness or any other disability, you're essentially narrowing your own horizons. You're saying that there is an archetype for blind people, physically handicapped people, deaf people, mentally challenged people, and so on. You're also saying that we should fit within the parameters of that original pattern. Any derivation is just... not permitted.
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Now, I don't think that's your intent, but I wanted to make you aware of how that comes off, at least to me. Most of us are just doing what you would do, living our lives. We have good days and bad ones. But at the end of the day, there's more commonality to be found between the blind and the sighted than there are differences. For a long time, there has been this gulf dividing our two groups. Yours, the able-bodied is much more massive than ours. We live in a world where we get by only because the sighted have decided to put together resources for us. We still have to fight for new things. It's a battle for every bit of legal precedent that is set, or every new right that you all say we can have. But really, there doesn't have to be this gulf separating us.
bradley22 2 points 3y ago
I’d recommend looking into astral projection and LSD/mushrooms for answers into some answers to those questions.
bscross32 2 points 3y ago
I haven't tried astral projection, I did try teleportation though, and... well... it didn't go well. What ended up happening will keep me from trying things like that again.
bradley22 2 points 3y ago
What do you mean by teleportation?
bscross32 2 points 3y ago
Well, I guess that wouldn't be the correct term. telekinesis would be more accurate, but I tried it and things happened that I didn't like... at all.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
It sucks that it's not available when it's harmless when used in the proper setting, proper state of mind. Unlike the drugs that are legal and cause death.
I have tried Astral projection sober though, trying it when I'm about to sleep, using meditation and audio recordings that are supposed to help but I don't think I have had any luck.
But how would I know if I did, maybe I just don't remember when I wake up. Peace.
I have tried Astral projection sober though, trying it when I'm about to sleep, using meditation and audio recordings that are supposed to help but I don't think I have had any luck.
But how would I know if I did, maybe I just don't remember when I wake up. Peace.
bradley22 2 points 3y ago
There’s r/astral projection, you could ask on there if you like.
Peace.
Peace.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Holy shit, yes you thoughts and feelings around "everything" is indeed something I think I have shared before. But I would never have put it into those words like that. And as a person with eyes, I only see the world in words apparently. I am starting to see that now. I know what you mean, you are not "magical". But you sound more "intelligent" in a way. Your visualization intelligence (is that a thing or did I just make that up?) seems through the roof. We are all feeling it yes, but you are putting such a huge existential crisis thought into a movie in my head that I didn't even know I could have there. I imagined it in a way I never have. But you put words on the reason why I am having trouble sleeping at night. We need to change our ways. I don't know if you can listen to or read any of my posts because they seem to be hidden for everyone but me for some reason but this is what I want help pondering.
How do we change for the better? How can I do anything to change anything for the better?
I have been feeling myself relate more and more to you humans who are treated like you have disabilities. But personally I feel it should be said more like: you have these abilities = (random strengths you have that others don't, also ofcourse weaknesses but you got to give and take, like a video game, there is a finite number of points and you sound like you put yours in imagination and at the same time honesty. This is what I meant with I think you who are blind see the world for what it really is. I can be fed images over and over and over, TV, commercials, instagram, blablablabla, and now suddenly I will have been brainwashed to think a ceratin way.
But you seem to have skipped the brainwashing part (I have too because I don't watch TV, commercials, social media, etc) but I chose to. Some don't even know that maybe they should choose not to. Maybe if everyone starting thinking for themselves instead we would be in a much better place as you say.
I see what you are saying, if I romanticize you I will putting you further away from me and you want to be treated as you are, human as anyone else. But I'm not. I do these for every person, I try to see their strengths and weaknesses and listen to what they have to say. Thank you by the way for this incredible text. If it's okay I will be saving it on my PC with my own texts, but not to steal it or anything, I just want to bounce my own similar ideas off of them.
It's good that you are trying to make me aware, I am on the same wavelength there. Awareness is the key. Really listening to someone, even if it might not be easy to hear what they have to say.
I have never talked to or met a blind person before today so I know what you mean with the division. I may be considered able bodied however but most neurotypical people would see me as not able brained. Or abled of emotion is probably the right word for it. I was always told growing up that since I have aspergers, since I was so stubborn, since I always caused upset wherever I went that I must be unable to understand peoples emotions. That is the opposite. I read about new research yesterday that goes perfectly along with my entire life experience, me, I am actually too emotional, thinking too much, unable to stop. But since I would make people angry with the way I was always honest and making people worried with how I showed emotion so intenesely. My little kid brain decided that I would just not speak and put on a blank mask, escaping into my own dreamworld. I never played with the other kids (only my best friend at the time because she would let me be myself and she didn't bat an eye while truely accepting who I was), I never hung out with my family. I just wrote, text after text, drew picture after picture. Trying to escape into some sort of safe bubble, but I "escaped" into a prison. An echo chamber with my own thoughts. And now when I love myself enough to have set myself free, I decided I am going to speak again. No more filter, no more mask, no more bubble. But it is having it's downsides too.
Like when I was small, people will be angry with me if I speak the truth. They will expect me to never cry, then when I have a breakdown and bawl from the pressure, they will be worried and ask if I am mentally unwell.
It is like this frustrating dance of me, the kid who wasn't a kid on the inside, having to tip toe around every other adult and child who just wouldn't look the truth in the eye. Never looking in the mirror. I see now why, I see now why. They mean no harm. They mean well, but they arent used to seeing the world in certain aspects like someone like you would for example.
Basically people aren't used to raw, real, reality. They need it to be sugarcoated and filtered and prettified and numbed down by sugary drinks and action flicks who keep their minds occupied from the fact that we need to do something.
We need to look at each other with honest hearts and just fucking do something. Something positive. Change. Stop being fed what they want you to think, is all I want to scream. I don't know how I have this tiny bit stronger resiliance against it, I always have, but it has kept me unable to lie, I would just not speak at all if given the choice.
I want to know how to convey my only well meaning wishes to people without them taking offense or becoming uncomfortable.
That is my quest, I think the key is the images we use, the language we use. And the compassion we try to convey them with.
So yes. I agree with everything you have written. Sorry for the long text haha and thank you for responding seriously to me.
How do we change for the better? How can I do anything to change anything for the better?
I have been feeling myself relate more and more to you humans who are treated like you have disabilities. But personally I feel it should be said more like: you have these abilities = (random strengths you have that others don't, also ofcourse weaknesses but you got to give and take, like a video game, there is a finite number of points and you sound like you put yours in imagination and at the same time honesty. This is what I meant with I think you who are blind see the world for what it really is. I can be fed images over and over and over, TV, commercials, instagram, blablablabla, and now suddenly I will have been brainwashed to think a ceratin way.
But you seem to have skipped the brainwashing part (I have too because I don't watch TV, commercials, social media, etc) but I chose to. Some don't even know that maybe they should choose not to. Maybe if everyone starting thinking for themselves instead we would be in a much better place as you say.
I see what you are saying, if I romanticize you I will putting you further away from me and you want to be treated as you are, human as anyone else. But I'm not. I do these for every person, I try to see their strengths and weaknesses and listen to what they have to say. Thank you by the way for this incredible text. If it's okay I will be saving it on my PC with my own texts, but not to steal it or anything, I just want to bounce my own similar ideas off of them.
It's good that you are trying to make me aware, I am on the same wavelength there. Awareness is the key. Really listening to someone, even if it might not be easy to hear what they have to say.
I have never talked to or met a blind person before today so I know what you mean with the division. I may be considered able bodied however but most neurotypical people would see me as not able brained. Or abled of emotion is probably the right word for it. I was always told growing up that since I have aspergers, since I was so stubborn, since I always caused upset wherever I went that I must be unable to understand peoples emotions. That is the opposite. I read about new research yesterday that goes perfectly along with my entire life experience, me, I am actually too emotional, thinking too much, unable to stop. But since I would make people angry with the way I was always honest and making people worried with how I showed emotion so intenesely. My little kid brain decided that I would just not speak and put on a blank mask, escaping into my own dreamworld. I never played with the other kids (only my best friend at the time because she would let me be myself and she didn't bat an eye while truely accepting who I was), I never hung out with my family. I just wrote, text after text, drew picture after picture. Trying to escape into some sort of safe bubble, but I "escaped" into a prison. An echo chamber with my own thoughts. And now when I love myself enough to have set myself free, I decided I am going to speak again. No more filter, no more mask, no more bubble. But it is having it's downsides too.
Like when I was small, people will be angry with me if I speak the truth. They will expect me to never cry, then when I have a breakdown and bawl from the pressure, they will be worried and ask if I am mentally unwell.
It is like this frustrating dance of me, the kid who wasn't a kid on the inside, having to tip toe around every other adult and child who just wouldn't look the truth in the eye. Never looking in the mirror. I see now why, I see now why. They mean no harm. They mean well, but they arent used to seeing the world in certain aspects like someone like you would for example.
Basically people aren't used to raw, real, reality. They need it to be sugarcoated and filtered and prettified and numbed down by sugary drinks and action flicks who keep their minds occupied from the fact that we need to do something.
We need to look at each other with honest hearts and just fucking do something. Something positive. Change. Stop being fed what they want you to think, is all I want to scream. I don't know how I have this tiny bit stronger resiliance against it, I always have, but it has kept me unable to lie, I would just not speak at all if given the choice.
I want to know how to convey my only well meaning wishes to people without them taking offense or becoming uncomfortable.
That is my quest, I think the key is the images we use, the language we use. And the compassion we try to convey them with.
So yes. I agree with everything you have written. Sorry for the long text haha and thank you for responding seriously to me.
bscross32 3 points 3y ago
People don't want to acknowledge the differences between each other. We see all this stuff on TV and online about diversity and how important it is to be tolerant of others. The problem is that the people who are pushing this message are the ones who practice intolerance.
There is a dichotomy between what we should do and what is being done. The loudest of those, whom we term SJWs shout and scream, but look at the way they think, they're the ones behind this brain washing. And since the media is so left leaning, at least where I'm from, you have same things being fed into people.
All the memes and cute cat pics that sighted people look at all day are preconditioning them to receive these subliminal messages. They're not able to think for themselves anymore. They're even discouraged from doing this if they're part of the liberal movement. Thinking equates to not doing as you're told, not believing as they say we should. Then they turn on those folks. They're political cannibals.
I want to see how the world really is, even the ugly parts. I don't want their gentrified delusions. I am also honest with people, some say too honest, but I do not go out of my way to hurt people's feelings, it just happens sometimes because I am not the most socially adept person out there.
There is a dichotomy between what we should do and what is being done. The loudest of those, whom we term SJWs shout and scream, but look at the way they think, they're the ones behind this brain washing. And since the media is so left leaning, at least where I'm from, you have same things being fed into people.
All the memes and cute cat pics that sighted people look at all day are preconditioning them to receive these subliminal messages. They're not able to think for themselves anymore. They're even discouraged from doing this if they're part of the liberal movement. Thinking equates to not doing as you're told, not believing as they say we should. Then they turn on those folks. They're political cannibals.
I want to see how the world really is, even the ugly parts. I don't want their gentrified delusions. I am also honest with people, some say too honest, but I do not go out of my way to hurt people's feelings, it just happens sometimes because I am not the most socially adept person out there.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Yes.. it is quite frustrating to see. People have a "kind" intention but they don't realize it can be harmful. I think as stated below, awareness is the key. We need to start talking, honestly. And people have to start listening, honestly.
I love cats, I relate to cats and have a cat picture as my reddit picture. But if all I saw all day were cats, I don't think I could handle the real world too soon. It's okay in small dosages, but it shouldn't be pages of pages of pages. That is how you lose connection with how to comfort yourself in hard times. Not able to think about the seemingly tough issues we do need to think about because they get too afraid.
Think, question, never stop asking questions. Never stop seeking answers. And never stop looking for the source of your information. Because like you say, a good intent can turn really harmful, real quick.
*Firstbump* I want to see the real world. Real. World. Real. People. Real. Emotions. Real. Thoughts. And in politics, facts, not fiction. That is the only way to find the right solution. Thank you for being an aware rebel who cares for humanity.
The last part you wrote just hit me in the feels, yes. We don't think about masking the truth. The truth can hurt, but it is what will set you free. Then you wont hurt anymore.
Hope to hear more from you soon. Goodnight. :) ❤️
I love cats, I relate to cats and have a cat picture as my reddit picture. But if all I saw all day were cats, I don't think I could handle the real world too soon. It's okay in small dosages, but it shouldn't be pages of pages of pages. That is how you lose connection with how to comfort yourself in hard times. Not able to think about the seemingly tough issues we do need to think about because they get too afraid.
Think, question, never stop asking questions. Never stop seeking answers. And never stop looking for the source of your information. Because like you say, a good intent can turn really harmful, real quick.
*Firstbump* I want to see the real world. Real. World. Real. People. Real. Emotions. Real. Thoughts. And in politics, facts, not fiction. That is the only way to find the right solution. Thank you for being an aware rebel who cares for humanity.
The last part you wrote just hit me in the feels, yes. We don't think about masking the truth. The truth can hurt, but it is what will set you free. Then you wont hurt anymore.
Hope to hear more from you soon. Goodnight. :) ❤️
blindbat84 3 points 3y ago
Being completely blind with no light perception my world is very much sound centered. In Autumn when the leaves have fallen from the trees and the wind blows through them causing the trees to creak and the leaves to skitter down the street is one of my favorite things ever. It sort of expands my bubble of the world like a radar or sonar would. No no Ben Afleck like sight it just makes me able to hear the dimensions of a road better or hear more in the distance and know where trees are more easily.
On the flip side of that Summer with cicadas screaming in the trees is my worst time because I can barely hear anything else and it makes travel difficult.
Edit: Oh holy moly thanks for the platinum, first time getting any of them. Woo!!!
On the flip side of that Summer with cicadas screaming in the trees is my worst time because I can barely hear anything else and it makes travel difficult.
Edit: Oh holy moly thanks for the platinum, first time getting any of them. Woo!!!
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
What a beautifully written text, describing what sounds like a magical experience. I have always liked the same thing. The slightly orange and golden leaves falling so lightly, as if in slowmotion, the gentle sound of the wind. You seem to hear so much more, pay attention to so much more then I do. I will try to focus on the creaking of the trees and the leaves that skitter down next time I'm on a walk outside.
Expanding your bubble of the world.. expanding your bubble.. you possess another amazing quality that I too am trying to achieve.
Radar, sonar.. I have watched a documentary a long time ago as a little girl, about a boy who could echo-locate. it fascinated me then and it still does. I am trying to imagine it when I close my eyes and sing.
OMG, the birds! I know they are just trying to live their lives too and find a mate and stuff but it does sting the ears, for those trying to focus. Now I see you have it even worse when that happens.
This is what I was hoping for, thank you for writing. ♥️
Edit: I have always imagined that you who are blind can see the world for what it truely is. I am stuck with seeing the world in language, in the words that are put on things and then I will always see that object that same way.. hopefully not forever but for me an apple will probably now always look like just another apple, if I don't pay attention to it.
Edit 2: This is why I'm trying to pay attention to it. It isn't just another apple. Also, another thought popped up now, this is probably why different languages is so dear to me. They expand my vision somehow.. I try to think between calling it an apple, and then an äpple. It kind of makes a huge difference. Sorry for ranting, writing it down for myself so I can mindmap it in my idea tree.
Expanding your bubble of the world.. expanding your bubble.. you possess another amazing quality that I too am trying to achieve.
Radar, sonar.. I have watched a documentary a long time ago as a little girl, about a boy who could echo-locate. it fascinated me then and it still does. I am trying to imagine it when I close my eyes and sing.
OMG, the birds! I know they are just trying to live their lives too and find a mate and stuff but it does sting the ears, for those trying to focus. Now I see you have it even worse when that happens.
This is what I was hoping for, thank you for writing. ♥️
Edit: I have always imagined that you who are blind can see the world for what it truely is. I am stuck with seeing the world in language, in the words that are put on things and then I will always see that object that same way.. hopefully not forever but for me an apple will probably now always look like just another apple, if I don't pay attention to it.
Edit 2: This is why I'm trying to pay attention to it. It isn't just another apple. Also, another thought popped up now, this is probably why different languages is so dear to me. They expand my vision somehow.. I try to think between calling it an apple, and then an äpple. It kind of makes a huge difference. Sorry for ranting, writing it down for myself so I can mindmap it in my idea tree.
blindbat84 2 points 3y ago
Actually cicadas are insects, very loud insects.
Don't have the ability for echolocation, but it definitely has an effect.
Totally just spend time listening some day, you can pick up some amazing stuff.
https://youtu.be/ooiSfD2a6pI
Above is a video with the sound of the cicadas in summer if you haven't heard them before.
Don't have the ability for echolocation, but it definitely has an effect.
Totally just spend time listening some day, you can pick up some amazing stuff.
https://youtu.be/ooiSfD2a6pI
Above is a video with the sound of the cicadas in summer if you haven't heard them before.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Omg... I just listened to the cicadas but from my screen speakers and I tried to cover my eyes and really listen. I wish I had echo-location. Beautiful sound actually. Similar to crickets.
But what I did realize too as I was listening intently, with my eyes covered, trying to visualize somehow like you do, is the humming and buzzing of my computer and my own breathing, even my own heartbeat. Thank you.
But what I did realize too as I was listening intently, with my eyes covered, trying to visualize somehow like you do, is the humming and buzzing of my computer and my own breathing, even my own heartbeat. Thank you.
ARawpper [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Sorry, I thought about birds when you said it since I can't recognize the word, I just immediately went for something I can relate to.
It sounds like you do, but you wouldn't know because you can't compare it to how he did it. He just clicked his tongue, or used a walking cane, consistently bumping it on stuff to create noise, and it was like a miracle. He could walk around on streets. That is echo-location isn't it?
I Will.
Thank you, I will put on my headphones and listen and put it on my memory bank so I know what it is next time I read it.
It sounds like you do, but you wouldn't know because you can't compare it to how he did it. He just clicked his tongue, or used a walking cane, consistently bumping it on stuff to create noise, and it was like a miracle. He could walk around on streets. That is echo-location isn't it?
I Will.
Thank you, I will put on my headphones and listen and put it on my memory bank so I know what it is next time I read it.
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