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Playing card and dice games (self.Blind)
submitted by BonesAndBanners
Hi, I'm developing a card game that uses dice and I'm wondering what your experience is playing board games? Card and dice games in particular.
Do you have a tool that can add braille to cards? I've been in contact with a printer that can print LED UV embossed Braille cards that is see through which sounds like a good option.
A card might say: "Soldiers. Invade. Contest an enemy land. Gets two extra banners when Banding."
Where "Soldiers" is the name of the card, "Invade" is the type of the card and "Contest an enemy land. Gets two extra banners when Banding." is the special ability of the card.
What's your take on rolling and controlling six sided dice? Are the braille dice any good?
Best Regards
Tor Viktorsson
Edit: spelling mistake
Do you have a tool that can add braille to cards? I've been in contact with a printer that can print LED UV embossed Braille cards that is see through which sounds like a good option.
A card might say: "Soldiers. Invade. Contest an enemy land. Gets two extra banners when Banding."
Where "Soldiers" is the name of the card, "Invade" is the type of the card and "Contest an enemy land. Gets two extra banners when Banding." is the special ability of the card.
What's your take on rolling and controlling six sided dice? Are the braille dice any good?
Best Regards
Tor Viktorsson
Edit: spelling mistake
ErtaySh 5 points 3y ago
There is no need to use braille on six sided dice. A normal 16mm die with pips can easily be felt by touch. I have a blog and podcast where we discuss the accessibility of board games and how we play games blind. You can check it out at https://sightless.fun
Let me know if you have any specific questions. I recommend listening to episode nine which is about sighted assistance.
Let me know if you have any specific questions. I recommend listening to episode nine which is about sighted assistance.
BonesAndBanners [OP] 2 points 3y ago
Thanks Ertay, that's exactly the kind of information I was looking for!
CloudsOfMagellan 2 points 3y ago
I play dnd and braille dice work fine even d20s
DariusA92 2 points 3y ago
Keep in mind that braille takes a lot of space and to be able to fit all the text in a card you need to use grade 2 braille and even then you may have to abbreviate some words. About dice, I have seen normal plastic dices before and was able to read them fairly easily. Although maybe bigger dices give the players a better experience.
And about QR code, it's the more sophisticated version of barcode, and since it needs a device to read it, I don't think it's a good option for a board/card game.
And about QR code, it's the more sophisticated version of barcode, and since it needs a device to read it, I don't think it's a good option for a board/card game.
BonesAndBanners [OP] 2 points 3y ago
I was first thinking I could cut the rules text down to keywords but I also realise that not all blind players know how to read Braille so I'm starting to consider other kinds of custom shapes that makes more sense from a game play point of view.
A card that has the value 2 for instance could have two striped ridges on top of the card.
A card that has the value 2 for instance could have two striped ridges on top of the card.
DariusA92 2 points 3y ago
A good idea. Good luck. :)
jrs12 2 points 3y ago
What kind of braille is LED, UV? Quality of braille matters a lot. Braille also takes up a lot of space, so sometimes abbreviations are needed in order to fit it all on the card. Companies like 64 Ounce Games use baseball card sleeves to add braille onto so that it doesn't affect people who may want to read or enlarge the print. I'm also a huge fan of the QR code option as not everyone is comfortable with braille. Try out the spacing by getting a card the size you want and translating the braille. Does it fit? That is the big question.
BonesAndBanners [OP] 1 points 3y ago
I've looked into it and "LED UV" is the method to print Braille on paper. The thick ink can be transparent so that it does not interfere or obscure what is printed underneath the Braille.
I think that means I could print directly over the regular text on the cards and perhaps go a bit wider if needed.
What is the QR code option?
Edit: spelling mistake
I think that means I could print directly over the regular text on the cards and perhaps go a bit wider if needed.
What is the QR code option?
Edit: spelling mistake
iheartbaconsalt 2 points 3y ago
Good. I've played lots of poker and UNO with brailled cards done with just a stylus to poke holes, and cheating is too easy! Never imagined one-sided brailled cards would ever exist, so this makes me so happy. You mentioned board games, but we mostly played chess with a special board with every other space raised. LOTS of card games. We had a special raised-slot version of Monopoly too, but it wasn't very popular.
BonesAndBanners [OP] 2 points 3y ago
I've seen raised printing before but since I'm not actively searching for Braille I haven't seen transparent Braille until recently but it might be more common than I think? There are lots of videos on YouTube about it but for some diabolic reason I can't find one that has speech.
The raised board solution sounds very clever. It opens up a lot of design possibilities. I need to think about what this would mean for the game I'm working on.
The raised board solution sounds very clever. It opens up a lot of design possibilities. I need to think about what this would mean for the game I'm working on.
iheartbaconsalt 2 points 3y ago
There was a LOT more LEGO building in the blind school I went to than card/board games. Gotta make something you can feel!
hangeryyy 2 points 3y ago
There’s Braille cards, but Braille dice probably wouldn’t roll properly. Instead of Braille on the dice, the dots could go inward. The little dents can be felt like on dominoes and they won’t affect how the dice roll.
BonesAndBanners [OP] 1 points 3y ago
I've seen Braille dice with dots going outwards inside an indent that is protected by a ridge around the border of each side which looks like it could work but I can't vouch for how good they are. It's like the dots are in a valley so it shouldn't affect the dice roll.
DaaxD 2 points 3y ago
I thought die with inwards concave dots were kinda standard. I'm not sure have I ever had a normal 6 sided dice without concave dots.
I have never read braille before, but I just tried my own normal D6 and after few minutes I felt like I was able to distinghuish the sides from each other. My dice however was quite small (0.5" x 0.5" x 0.5") so i think having larger surface area would make them easier to read.
I have never read braille before, but I just tried my own normal D6 and after few minutes I felt like I was able to distinghuish the sides from each other. My dice however was quite small (0.5" x 0.5" x 0.5") so i think having larger surface area would make them easier to read.
hangeryyy 2 points 3y ago
That sounds alright to me. Dots standing out on their own would change the roll, but a ridge surrounding each side would probably “normalize” the roll.
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