How would you like an application that would specifically help you combat your nightmares(self.Blind)
submitted by notyourslave01
Hello, as a project for my college we are going to design an application that uses wearable technology to connect to your phone and help you combat nightmares. I read an article which said that visually impaired people have bad dreams 4 times more than sighted people. I am aware there are various applications to teach you how to have lucid dreams but nothing that will focus on nightmares, also sighted people can also use this application, but the focus is mainly on people who are visually impaired. To be honest I don’t personally know any visually impaired people and research doesn’t give you an insight to one’s problems as much as speaking to actual people will. As of now, the problem area and possible technology has been identified. I would love some constructive criticism regarding this topic, or maybe if you face other problems which I might not have been able to see. Also I’m sorry if I sound like a dumbass. Thank you!
Amonwilde8 points3y ago
Just as a point of order we usually call one another "people," not "humans." If you're a robot or a lizardperson, though, then carry on.
notyourslave01 [OP]1 points3y ago
My dumb ass has to fuck up. I usually call my people subjects humans, since you can have products and services for other living beings, but I get your point, it sounds dehumanising. Which was in no point my intention. I apologise, will make the changes.
Amonwilde1 points3y ago
No worries, it's actually a mistake I see people make commonly in some other communities. It generally comes from holding people at a remove when you're thinking about them.
notyourslave01 [OP]1 points3y ago
I actually implied it for all “people” though, not just the people I was researching about. Misreading is also a mistake people commonly make.
Amonwilde1 points3y ago
Sounds like you might be holding everyone at a remove if you're thinking of people as humans as a go-to. :) The communities I see doing this are scientific communities, rationalists (their term), and some programmer groups, and I think stepping back from humanity is a common thought pattern there. It only becomes a failure mode when you come back to interact with people and retain that mindset, though...
KillerLag3 points3y ago
What article did you read that people with vision loss have 4 times the nightmares? I've heard of a few studies regarding disrupted sleep patterns, but never heard of this before.
Huh, interesting.... I wonder if they have tried replicating the study in other areas, or larger groups.
notyourslave01 [OP]1 points3y ago
I don’t think so, if they have I haven’t come across it.
codeplaysleep2 points3y ago
I'd really like to read this study.
I had one recurring nightmare for a bit as a kid and remember having a few others back then, but as an adult, it's rare that I have nightmares. When I do, I can pretty much always trace it back to something stressful that's going on in my life (e.g. had one right after my dad had a stroke).
This is intrusive but could you please tell me if you had sight as a child? And do you remember what the nightmare was about?
codeplaysleep1 points3y ago
Dad's recovered fairly well and is doing good, thanks!
I've always been visually impaired to about the same degree, legally blind since birth. Over the years, it's gotten a little worse in some ways a little better in others.
I still very vividly remember the dream, because it was so detailed and it happened so frequently.
But first some backstory: My dad used to do HVAC/electrical work when I was a kid. He ran his own business and sometimes I would tag along if I was on a school break or something. There was one house he used to work at quite regularly (I think they were remodeling) that had a crawlspace under the floor from their basement (the basement wasn't as large as the whole house's footprint, so part of the duct work/electrical wiring was only accessible via the crawlspace). I remember crawling under there a couple times and it was very "scratchy" - lots of gnarled roots and sticks and things poking at you.
Well, my dream started with crawling through this crawlspace for an unusually long time and eventually emerging from the other end into a forest. After walking through the forest a bit, it would open into this clearing. The whole area was lit with a sort of ambient pale green, moonlight-like glow, but there was no visible moon or stars, just weirdly illuminated clouds.
In the middle of the clearing was a HUGE tree that had a "treehouse" that was an actual house - an old two-story white house.
I'd climb the ladder into the house and inside it was all just open, completely empty rooms with squeaky wood floors. I'd walk past the stairs into the living room (never went up them) and there were doors there that opened out onto this balcony that gave a great view of the clearing and the forest beyond. I'd go stand out there and take it all in, then the wind would really pick up.
After that, I'd go back inside the house and I'd be standing there looking around, when suddenly I'd feel something wet on my arm. Then I noticed something dripping from the ceiling. Then I realized it was blood.
That's when I would look up and see all kinds of dead bodies hanging on ropes from the ceiling.
I'd freak out at this point, run out of the house, down the ladder, back through the clearing (still very windy), into the forest and the trail just sort of closed in behind me as I ran. I'd dive back into the hole into the crawlspace and start crawling toward the basement, but all of the gnarled roots and things in the crawlspace would turn to hands that grabbed me and pulled me back toward the clearing.
That's usually the point at which I woke up. I think one time I did barely make it out of the crawlspace and back into the basement.
I had this dream off and on for months. It was probably when I was around 12.
notyourslave01 [OP]1 points3y ago
Those were some vivid details!
Do you think you could tell me other issues that you face? Anything at all.
bscross322 points3y ago
You know... I'm thinking about it, and I don't think I've ever had a nightmare in my entire life. I'm 33. Weird dreams, yes, nightmares... no, not that I recall.
notyourslave01 [OP]1 points3y ago
It would be of great help if you could tell me if you ever had sight? And what kind of weird dreams if you don’t mind me asking?
bscross321 points3y ago
They think I was born completely blind, but I do have some vision now. None in my left eye and a bit in my right.
Weird dreams hmm... I remember this one where me and some friends stole this guy's car and made it fly so we could fly with the dinosaurs. Another one I used to have was me and my mom stumbling across this dojo where my dad was in a karate tournament. A lot of sexual stuff, especially when it's hot at night. Honestly, I don't tend to remember my dreams that often.
notyourslave01 [OP]1 points3y ago
Wow that’s intriguing. And funny.
adrienneE491 points3y ago
Lol maybe blind people have more nightmares because they are generally more stressed. Living life as a blind person is stressful :)
RJHand1 points3y ago
I personally don't have many nightmares. I have, but I mean who hasn't? I'm completely blind since birth and I mean I can't really compare obviously but I don't imagine my dreams are any different than anyone elses. I have heard that blind people do tend to have more nightmares but I don't think I personally have
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hopesthoughts1 points3y ago
Honestly, I think I've only had one nightmare. I was born totally blind.
razzretina1 points3y ago
I'm curious about this nightmares study, too. What was the sample size? Were the participants taking medications like Hetlioz which increase vivid dreams/chance of nightmares to control a sleep disorder? Is there anything that backs up that lucid dreaming or any apps aimed at nightmare reduction in anyone at all works? I would look more closely at that article first before going through a lot of trouble, but it is nice that you thought of us. :)
notyourslave01 [OP]1 points3y ago
I will link articles to every question you have put forward soon.
The sample size was 50, with 25 sighted people, 11 congenitally blind and 14 late blind
Thank you! Hmm. Just based on the sample size alone, that’s not enough data to make the conclusion the article is going for. Also “congenital blindness” can be any number of disorders, some of which affect the brain, so nightmares may not be related to blindness at all in the case of this study. It looks like the article fails to account for subjects’ personal histories; the rate of abuse towards the disabled is very high and it’s possible the increase in nightmares has more to do with a higher rate of trauma in the blind participants vs the sighted ones.
notyourslave01 [OP]2 points3y ago
That’s what I thought too. Too many variables not taken into account. Thank you for your input!
In case you have a visual impairment, could you please tell me what are some issues that you face ?
razzretina1 points3y ago
A lot of research seems to leave out some really important stuff. In general, if it's not in something like The Journal of Visual Impairment and Blindness or another peer reviewed blindness publication, I'm generally wary. Sure! I have Retinopathy of Prematurity (ROP) and have frequent nightmares if not on my medication. This is due to PTSD and having to take a medication for non-24 sleep wake disorder (an illness almost exclusive to the blind with retinal detachment), which has a side effect of vivid dreams and increased nightmares. A few of my friends and I have been theorising that people with ROP have more vivid dreams, but there's no research about that as far as we know. P
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