Christians, Please Call Us Autistic, Blind, and Deaf [OC -as an autistic, I hope I got the blind perspective right](patheos.com)
submitted by FrMatthewLC
razzretina13 points3y ago
With the blind community, it varies wildly. The rule of thumb is to say “visually impaired” and use person first language unless asked to do otherwise. It’s a pretty fraught issue for us and blindness is so different for everyone that you really can’t make a sweeping statement about the language we prefer and have it be accurate. I know the Deaf community has more of a culture to it and deafness is a big part of it so that influences how they want to be addressed. For autism, just based on the people I’ve met, you guys seem to prefer being up front and to the point about it. Both groups are very large too. By contrast, people who are blind are a very small, very scattered group and we can be anywhere. Blindness doesn’t really define us and the cultural assumptions that it does causes a lot of problems.
The thing I want christians to stop doing is touching me and demanding to pray for me whether I want them to or not. :D Because of the negative way blind people are portrayed in the Bible, being swarmed by church goers who insist I need divine intervention is frustratingly common.
DYMongoose7 points3y ago
My mom refers to herself as "unsighted".
Edit: referred -> refers. Present tense!
8i8oio1 points3y ago
Oooo... I like it
razzretina1 points3y ago
Haha I like that one.
AmAsabat2 points3y ago
I’m blind cos I have no eyes (they were massively damaged in car accident) so Christians who ask get me taking off my sunglasses , taking out the fake one and told hey go ahead let’s see god give me new eyes. Never had anyone offer to pray then...though I am a pretty solid Christian and for me blindness is not a problem. Sure I’d like to be sighted but then I’d have to see my own ugly face every morning.
hopesthoughts1 points3y ago
I'm also a Christian. I find that this usually only happens in church settings, and not on public streets. Although the people at church know me now, so it's less common.
bigblindmax5 points3y ago
I think a difference you should bear in mind is that many people in our communities lost their sight later in life or are currently in the process of losing it.
Personally, I prefer identity-first: I was born with my vision impairment, it’s a part of my identity for better or worse. But for a lot of people, vision impairment isn’t “a part of them”, it’s something that’s happening **to** them and they might still be learning to cope with it.
It’s not a stretch to imagine that casually being called a “blind person” would hurt if I was that person. Everyone’s different and I’m just some folks who lost their vision later in life prefer identity-first as well, but point is, it would be a mistake to assume everyone does.
jage93 points3y ago
It seems that more blind people prefer that term while educators try to shove person first down our throats.
FrMatthewLC [OP]2 points3y ago
We autistics definitely get that sense surveys show that about 75% prefer "autistic" but non-autisitcs tell us that's incorrect.
darkness_is_great2 points3y ago
Here's a lovely idea: Why don't we all let the person and/or the people who are actually from that community decide what they want to be called? Instead of, you know, college professors and angry college students telling other people what they should call us.
FrMatthewLC [OP]2 points3y ago
I cite multiple studies that show that the majority in these three communities prefer this while many outside the community insist on calling us otherwise.
codeplaysleep3 points3y ago
Opinions vary widely among the blind community (probably among the deaf community, too).
Personally, I prefer "blind person" over "person who is blind." Person-first language, to me, sounds so... "othering." You'd never say "he's a man who is tall" or "she's a woman who is beautiful." If identity-first is OK when it's about a trait that society sees as as positive, then person-first language must be reserved for those of us with "negative" qualities.
I don't want my blindness to be seen or treated by others as a negative thing. There are good things about it and there are bad things about it. No one uses identity-first language to tiptoe around the negatives of being tall (e.g. difficulty finding clothing that fits right) or beautiful (like unwanted attention), so why should they do it in regards to my blindness?
FrMatthewLC [OP]2 points3y ago
Among the deaf and autistic, it's like 80-20, so pretty clear majority preference.
hopesthoughts2 points3y ago
Yeah, I'm not a fan of person first language, either.
TK_Sleepytime2 points3y ago
Hmmm... I appreciate this sentiment. As an autistic person who is also legally blind, there are definitely issues on the side of the NT and Sighted communities that are frustrating. Totally agree that it should be person first language. I identify as a blind person and have been told many times by sighted people that I shouldn't say that because I can see enough to walk without a cane. Just like I've been told not to claim to be autistic because I can work. We can shout our preferences until we are blue in the face but I feel like the misunderstanding and ignorance goes way deeper than that. Sure would be nice to be seen as a valid individual instead of criteria to meet a label.
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