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The Perils of Playing Blind: Problems with Blindness Simulation and a Better Way to Teach about Blindness (nfb.org)
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DrillInstructorJan 3 points 3y ago
I have done that with friends of people I've worked with, and done basic cane travel with them. In my defence, under those controlled circumstances, when we have a purpose and they're getting a specific experience out of it then I think it can be good. Often it's brought a bit of fun to the situation which can be in short supply. I don't think those people ended up feeling weak or bad, usually they end up going "oh, right I get it." It needs to be directed properly and have a specific goal in mind.

Obviously, having a bunch of people just blindfold themselves and try to do stuff is going to be a waste of time. I have said to people when they have been whining about stuff they can't do, "well, you don't know what you're doing yet." When they get some idea what they're doing, it's different. I think we all understand that.

Also, to get political, this is the same NFB that protested the movie "Blindness." The film shows a situation in which huge numbers of people go blind all at once. NFB complained that it didn't realistically depict the day to day lives of blind people, but it's pretty obviously not trying to. It's trying to depict the initial trauma that they're talking about in that paper and it does that pretty reasonably. If huge numbers of people suddenly went blind and nobody knew what they were doing it would not be pretty.

I don't think you can hold both those views simultaneously without a bit of cognitive dissonance. If blindfolding people is bad because going blind is scary, what's wrong with the movie being scary?
razzretina [OP] 2 points 3y ago
I agree that doing blindfold training with someone who knows what they're doing is a good thing. This study is going after the people who just blindfold thethemselves at home for ten minutes and decide it's how we all must live. Not only innacurate, but unsafe.

Uh. Can you just not get political? The NFB doesn’t get everything right all the time but neither does any other organisation. They have done and are doing a lot to help people. It’s pretty unfair to judge 50k blind people for making it known that they don’t like a movie where going blind makes you immediately helpless and in desperate need of salvation by the single sighted person left. I didn’t bother with the movie after the scene in the book where a guy just starts loudly crapping himself in front of a crowd because blind.
regicide85 2 points 3y ago
Carrie Sandhal is a Disability Studies and Theatre scholar who has a book of essays that are really good, one is the account of a woman who works with blind colleagues closely and has had to feign blindness to do things like help them transport service animals, etc. As the society we live in is largely responsible for our disablement and not our visual impairment, it's posited that presenting as blind in public with a cane or service animal and sunglasses and dealing with public reactions to "blindness" would provide a more accurate picture of our experience than blindfolding. Especially because it's not like most of us just have zero ocular sensory input...
razzretina [OP] 1 points 3y ago
You know how we're always telling sighted people to not blindfold themselves to try and understand what it's like to be us? There's a research study from a peer reviewed journal backing up that it's a bad idea! I thought y'all would appreciate this.
CloudyBeep 3 points 3y ago
Though this journal is peer-reviewed, it isn't really possible to claim that they represent a broad spectrum of opinions—there are two authors who have collectively written many articles in the eight years this journal has existed, so it's definitely skewed in NFB's favour. That being said, I do still read and recommend the articles because of their positive philosophy about the capabilities of blind people.
razzretina [OP] 2 points 3y ago
I do hope they can get more people doing papers for this one. I want to see if the other major blindness focused journal has anything similar going on. In the few years I’ve been really looking for research, I’ve found little and a lot of it is by the same few people. There just aren’t many people in the field period.
Every now and again I run into research by one of my current professors and it’s interesting to see, to say the least.
CloudyBeep 2 points 3y ago
I assume you're referring to JVIB. I've also heard BJVI (the British Journal of Vision Impairment) mentioned, though I'm not really sure what/how much of the content in it is worth reading. I've also heard that there are some journals about Orientation & Mobility—there's one in Australia for example.
razzretina [OP] 2 points 3y ago
Yep I was thinking of JVIB! The other two never show up when I’m looking for peer reviewed research but that could just be a fault with the services I have access to.
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