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Full History - 2019 - 11 - 01 - ID#dqcbbu
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Think it is wrong... (self.Blind)
submitted by 4247420
I'm a blind person living in the UK. I pay for sky services but I get so upset I pay a lot of money for a service and not every film or channel has audio description. I'm paying for a service I'm not getting the full benefit from. Does anyone else feel the same that they pay for a servicefor tv entertainment but get frustrated when a program or film or a channel has no audio description?
CloudyBeep 3 points 3y ago
The UK has the world's highest requirements for AD. Many networks are required to provide some of their content with AD, and networks like the BBC, Channel 4 and ITV exceed those requirements. If you don't feel that you gain satisfaction from paying for more networks than just the BBC and ITV which come from your taxes (I'm not sure about this since I don't live in the UK), you don't have to keep paying for things you don't like. It is unreasonable to expect everything to have AD because 1) not every program is condusive to AD, 2) AD production is expensive (about £2500 per hour of TV content), and 3) networks would rather invest in AD for shows that they know people are more likely to watch.
thenamesbarnett 1 points 3y ago
Free view is decent with bbc/itv et. But they don't always have AD
And as for cost TV licences (for BBC) are £150 a year and stupid that you have to pay for them tbf
CloudyBeep 1 points 3y ago
So how would you like for them to be funded?
thenamesbarnett 0 points 3y ago
Ads like every other TV station, it works for everyone else and it's got mostly crap on it anyway
retrolental_morose 2 points 3y ago
I find it ridiculous that OFCOM have tried fining networks for not producing enough content, yet when you look at who, they're sports and shopping networks. Then there's the rather alarming level of redundancy in the market here in the UK - often a description is recorded for cinema, DVD, and sometimes multiple TV airings.
I'm quite disgusted that the RNIB haven't stepped in to help conglomerate the market, because it really needs streamlining.

As for Sky themselves, accessibility is so obviously not important to them. Their EPG and box is still very inaccessible, their streaming offerings don't have access services, I'm afraid the reality is we're a niche market, and while our money is as good as any other, we hold no say in where it goes, for all the noises they make publicly.

Look on the bright side. I grew up with no AD at all. Yet nowadays Apple TV+ launches with everything described. Netflix describe ALL their own shows, and import some from the beeb etc. iPlayer, the ITV hub, 4OD and demand5 all allow streaming of described content, and the majority of physical film releases are described when they come out in this country, not to mention the very high amount of description on prime channel content all the big dramas, premiering movies, soaps and even documentaries are described here).
CloudyBeep 1 points 3y ago
Sometimes movies have to be edited for TV broadcast or even between theatrical and home releases of movies, not to mention re-releases. The original versions of some AD tracks eventually become lost or incompatible with current technology, and it can be quicker to make a new one following a well-established procedure than trying to negotiate the licences for AD tracks on top of the movie licences themselves. But I do agree that there is too much redundancy. For example, Deluxe, which describes films for Twentieth Century Fox and Warner Brothers Pictures in both the US and UK actually writes different description tracks for each country; they could just modify the vocabulary and/or record it with a different narrator, but they don't.
fbracing02 2 points 3y ago
Did they say they had AD when you signed up for the service?
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