Okay, so, this is me really putting this out in public, and it is something I am really insecure about so please be gentle. It is the only thing about being blind that makes me feel this way. Otherwise I'm fine, but braille is my demon. It kills me, or at least my inability to do it does.
I have always told people that the absolute worst thing about not being able to see, is not being able to read. I was a complete bookworm when I could see and it is still a painful loss sometimes. Audio books aren't the same. Not even on the same planet.
So obviously I learned braille, right? I've been blind for twenty years, only a total loser and idiot could fail to sort it out in that time. Everyone learns braille, right?
Only no, I didn't ever learn it because it represented everything I hated about the situation. And yes that makes me a loser and an idiot. The people who thought I should learn braille were people who had been to special schools and were often a bit weird. The last thing I wanted was to be anything even remotely like them. I didn't want to be blind, but I especially didn't want to be a disabled person with all the baggage of that. Bear with me here, I'm describing my attitude then, not now. If I could go back in time and give myself a smack for this I would.
Also braille is incredibly hard, famously hard. It takes huge amounts of time to learn. As an increasingly middle aged person I know I'm likely never to be great at it, and even great braille readers never get to the speed you can read print. I also have huge guitar callouses on my fingers and they're not going anywhere because it's my living.
So it's hard as hell, doesn't work that well and it is associated with horrible memories for me. And learning to read again makes me feel like a five year old. I hate braille, I wish it didn't even exist then I wouldn't have to feel this way about it. But I want it like hell. I want it so much it almost physically hurts and that is not healthy, to want something you hate so much.
All this is why there is a copy of fingerprint braille on the shelf which I got for my birthday from my significant other, who has said he'll learn it with me, by touch not by sight, and I love him so much for that. But it sits on the shelf and makes me feel totally wretched because it's twenty years of all these feelings and frustrations. It is my absolute demon. I hate braille, but I want it so much. I want to be able to read again. Sorry if that's an over share but that's where I am.
Right now it just feels like rough paper. I guess I'm just venting. Does any of this make sense to anyone?
KillerLag7 points3y ago
If you have callouses on your fingers, that definitely makes it harder to read. And learning Braille can be quite difficult, very few adults fully learn it.
Rather than thinking "I need to learn Braille", it may be better to ask yourself "What is the most efficient use of my time?". Is it worth spending hours and hours to learn a new form of reading, rather than using audio systems? For some people, that is important enough. There are also other methods of reading Braille, although it gets significantly more difficult (very few places on the human body are designed for discerning such small details). I believe one person learned to read Braille with their lips (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2366660/Blind-student-learns-read-Braille-LIPS-fingertips-sensitive-feel-bumps.html), but one again, you have to consider whether taking that much time to learn that skill is worthwhile.
DrillInstructorJan [OP]4 points3y ago
Thank for replying, it helps. What you're saying is basically what I keep telling myself. I don't practically need it, I think I've proven that over the last however many years. It is notorious for being really hard. The thing is I want it like you cannot believe, I want to be able to read again and it's getting to the point where every time I hear the word "braille" I get thrown into this sneaky hate spiral. That's what I'm up against.
retrolental_morose1 points3y ago
A couple of thoughts:
First, just huge kudos for even wanting to try. Obviously you're successful and living well without it, so recognising the want and having the nerve to work on it is quite awe-inspiring. It's not just about books, is my first thought. You can label items, write/read notes, play card and board games, or with technology play other games (dogfighting is much enhanced when I can read my airspeed and distance to target with one hand whilst flying the aircraft with my other). So if there's anywhere at all in your life braille can come into play, that'll smooth your path.
Second, it's not all about learning the full braille code. Braille displays can generally only show you grade 1 or 2 braille, but there are ways of getting copies of books commensurate with your fingerprint level. As a kid having relevant material to pace my learning was impossible, so it's worth investigating all your options.
Finally, how effective is your typing, either on a qwerty keyboard or touchscreen? The NVDA screen reader and Apple's line of products let you "braille in". Even though that's not reading, it will allow you to practice your dot patterns - and getting yourself thinking in braille will naturally speed the reading process.
DrillInstructorJan [OP]1 points3y ago
Thanks for being so nice. One question though. When you say braille displays only do grade 1 and 2, is there some other grade I'm not aware of? Yikes this is starting to sound super complicated.
retrolental_morose2 points3y ago
no, not worth knowing about anyway :) I've clearly spent too much time in education because I regularly give braille to people in the process of learning, so they need more than grade 1, but not yet the complete range of grade 2.
One of the other things which is probably bad from a learning objective I'm often doing is turning off things like capital letter signs, because mature readers know where they should be and want to access the text as quickly as possible.
razzretina4 points3y ago
Speaking as someone who adores braille for giving me back my ability to read...yes this does make sense! Learning to read sucks. It sucks when you learn to read print and it sucks learning to read anything else. People tend to forget that.
I would encourage you to keep trying if you can, though. See if you can get a refreshable braille display; they're more portable and easier to read and most have some speech options so you can navigate the menus well enough while you're getting the hang of reading again. The big thing about reading braille, just like reading print, is developing the muscle memory for it. Sighted people have to learn how to hold their heads, move their eyes, focus their eyes, and operate a book, all of which cause strain. The same is true for braille, it's just that now you're learning how to focus your fingers instead of your eyes and you need a bit of time to grow some small reading callouses on your fingers; before those set in, it is much more uncomfortable to read and I, at least, had problems with physically sticking to book pages.
The stuff about braille being hard to learn isn't true. It can be personally difficult but it's no more difficult than learning to read print, and if you know how to read print, you already know how to read braille, you're just reading with your hands now and the letters look different. Some folks might roast me for this, but as a former print reader, I found the newest version of braille, Unified English Braille, is much easier to figure out and it matches up with print better than the older English Braille American Edition did.
It's frustrating at first, absolutely, and perhaps the people you've met who read braille are a bit strange, but you don't have to be them and consider what you gain by learning it. If you can get yourself to read for fifteen minutes a day, you'll make progress faster than you might think. I recommend getting a copy of your absolute favorite book or something you've always wanted to read and just go for it. You're more likely to read something you like (I started with kids books I didn't want to read and just said "screw it" and picked up a copy of William Gibson's Neuromancer; took me about a month to read the whole thing but it was nice to read something for myself again). If you need some help with learning, I think Hadley still does mail courses for free so you don't even have to work with anyone else and can work on your reading at home.
If you do decide you just don't want to do it, that's understandable. I'd say text to speech is the next best option. Not even close to as good as reading it for yourself, but it's better than having someone read it to you like an audiobook and you can get epubs of way more things. Best of luck!
AllHarlowsEve2 points3y ago
This could be written by me. I hated learning braille because I have a lot of fantom tingles and my sense of where my limbs are in space are fucky, so soft paper braille is a huge pain for me to read. A paper menu to me is just stress, rather than an aid.
On a display, or on a plastic braille label where there's no chance of me reading the next line? That's absolutely perfect and I love it, plus it's crisp enough I can actually get something out of it.
DrillInstructorJan [OP]2 points3y ago
The reading the next line thing is a bitch, I can hardly identify the individual rows at this point. I think I am probably a bit of a remedial case.
Eisah1 points3y ago
I have to agree with another poster. Braille isn't too hard! Now, with less sensitivity in your fingers it will probably be harder, but if you can manage to make out the differences between each letters over time the rest is quite easy.
Some people might think, "How can it be easy when there's so many rules?" And yes, it is hard to learn in one way but easy in another. If all you want to do is read then it's not that bad. It's more if you want to become a transcriber that it's hard, because then you have to memorize things like when to put blank lines and how to format everything and how to make a title page etc etc.
You don't need to worry about that part if you're just reading. It does take more time than print. However, after doing this for a bit over a year now, I can read it pretty smoothly. I have tried with my fingers as well and can make things out successfully sometimes - to me that will be the hardest part. As soon as you can tell apart the letters, the rest is not that hard at all, it'll just take a little time to memorize. Grade 1 is an absolute cinch as far as memorizing it. Grade 2 is a good deal more - it has to cover everything that's possible in print, after all. But it's still not bad, and for unusual things there will be special symbols pages included that explain what unusual symbols you'll run into in that book.
I will say I learned it with sight. I don't know how long it would take to learn to decipher by hand. I can do it a little bit, but I really do think the deciphering part will be the hardest bit. When I successfully read anything by hand I always feel like it's a big accomplishment.
Honestly, if you love reading, I think you will fall in love with braille eventually. It sounds like it's not braille itself that is a problem for you, but it feels more like admitting defeat in your mind. I don't think anyone can blame you for how difficult it is mentally. I do think you'll have a lot of fun once you start picking it up, though, you're just in an understandably frustrating part of the experience. I really wish the best for you.
oncenightvaler1 points3y ago
hey, I would love to offer any help and advice and Skype lessons on Braille. I have been blind since birth and recently the employment agency I was partnered with was like "You could do Braille transcription" and then I said back "O wait, I know Braille but I have no certification."
All that to say: I love Braille and I read in it fairly quickly, and I would be happy to help you some and deal with any complaints and challenges.
rollwithhoney1 points3y ago
just want to say first, we hear you and it is hard. If you haven't already, you may want to check out screenreaders or audio that can speed up, I've heard that this is part of some people get frustated by audio books since they are often much slower than reading.
That being said, huge misconception (VERY common assumption by sighted people especially) that braille is always slower. Someone who has been reading braille their whole life is often equally fast to a sighted reader. What happens is that when you're young the SAME part of your brain, your visual cortex I believe, learns to recognize these shapes--visually or by touch--as words. When someone learns to read by sight and then goes blind, it takes more time and practice because that part of your brain has to kind of "unlearn" and then relearn. So it's completely understandable that you're struggling with it but just know it's not hopeless. And there's no shame, too, to using a different tool instead like a screenreader. All just different roads to the same goal, information.
Edit: i cleaned up some grammar
DrillInstructorJan [OP]1 points3y ago
If you look it up, you discover that really good braille readers can maybe get up to 200 words per minute, while average print reading can be 280 or even a bit more. So yes, it really does look like it is slower. It may still be faster than speaking, but in terms of getting the information into your brain it does seem like it is slower, maybe up to a third slower. And that assumes you are really good at braille, which I would probably never be.
That is not completely offputting to me because it may still be faster than an audio book (though I doubt it is ever going to be faster than a screenreader really cranked up.)
Duriello1 points3y ago
Makes sense to me. I didn't have trouble learning Braille from a logical point of view, but I too am afflicted by the lack of motivation to train it since currently I'm a very slow reader, and I don't have callouses to blame. I've considered getting a Braille display to use for programming since I have trouble understanding other people's code as conveyed through a speech synthesizer, but I'm afraid that I'll just spend the money and end up not adapting to it.
modulus4 points3y ago
Not sure how things are at your locale, but where I live (Spain) you can get a braille display on loan. It might be possible to do something like that, and find out if you would get use out of it or not.
Buying a second-hand one might also be a more affordable option.
I read and write code, and while I can do it without a display, it makes it much easier and quicker. Just being able to browse by levels of indentation or quickly look for certain patterns on the lines speeds things up.
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