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For people who have (almost) no functional vision left: how do you vote? (self.Blind)
submitted by KingWithoutClothes
Hello everyone,

I'm from Switzerland. As you may know, we are the only country in the world with direct democracy on all levels of government (municipal, Cantonal and federal). This means there's always a lot of stuff to vote on. We've got 4 ballots per year, with each of them consisting of 4-6 independent political issues. These may range anywhere from something as mundane as building a new Elementary School in your neighborhood to something as significant as changing/adapting the constitution.

I'm a bit of a politics nerd and so I love to be politically active. I consider my right to vote very important. Unfortunately, as my vision has continued to decrease over the past years, exercising this right has becoming increasingly difficult. In Switzerland we don't have any voting machines or electronic voting, both because we tend to lag a bit behind the times and because it's not really safe. Instead it's all done with paper ballots. Every citizen receives them by mail and you can either mail them back or get up early on voting Sunday and take a stroll to the ballot box.

Now, since my vision has become so bad, I can't read print anymore. I also lost my ability to write by hand roughly 3 years ago. This is of course a problem because... how the heck am I going to fill out the voting slips??

My solution so far has been for me to ask my wife to fill out the voting slips for me. We'd sit down together and she'd read me every proposal/question. Then I tell her whether I want to vote "yes" or "no" and she writes down the answer for me.

This "solution" is of course problematic for a whole range of reasons. First of all, it's illegal for someone else to fill out my ballot. Secondly, one thing that always comes in the voting envelop along with the actual voting slips is a type of agreement I need to sign. By doing so, I confirm that these are the answers I really want etc. and I also confirm that I filled out the ballot myself (so there was no voter fraud). By signing this agreement, I obviously commit an illegal act because I lie about how my answers came on the paper. And thirdly, my wife doesn't possess the Swiss citizenship, meaning she doesn't have the right to vote in this country even for herself. This makes the whole thing extra illegal.

It's not just about committing crimes though. Another issue that bothers me about this solution is that I effectively lose my constitutional right to a secret vote. My wife knows literally every answer to every issue I vote on. Now, generally speaking that's not a problem because we agree on almost everything but it still feels a bit uncomfortable at times. There have been two or three occasions where I wished I could have filled out the ballot on my own because the issues were a bit... sensitive.

So, now that I have bored you with a very long text, I'd like to know how you ladies and gents solve this problem. Regardless of the country you reside in. Assuming you can't read print anymore like me and maybe you also can't properly see the screen of the voting machines... how do you vote?
CloudyBeep 5 points 3y ago
Have you contacted blindness organisations in Switzerland to see if there are any services available that you might not know about? This is obvious, but if there aren't services in place to help you cast a secret vote, you might decide to instigate change.
BlueRock956 2 points 3y ago
In my state, every voting poling place must have an accessible ellectronic voting machine. Sometimes the poling people don't know how to use it, and some don't know that they even have it. Thankfully its not difficult to use.
KingWithoutClothes [OP] 1 points 3y ago
How does that help if you can't read the screen of the electronic voting machine?
gjvnq1 1 points 3y ago
In Brazil the questions come in a standard order and you select your candidate by typing numbers in a keypad with Braille.

After you confirm a vote, a specific beep os played. At the end, another specific beep is played.

This is for all people by the way, not only blind ones.

However, sighted people can see the screen which displays the question and after selecting your vote, the name of the candidate appears as well as their face in black and white.

I don't think our machines have an audio jack however.
BlueRock956 1 points 3y ago
Hi, I cannot see anything, and I can use the voting machines. They have accessibility features. They have a screen reader and tactile buttons; the machine model which has a touch screen is also accessible.
carolineecouture 2 points 3y ago
Here in Pennsylvania we can ask to have an impartial person in the voting booth to assist. You have to state you need assistance when you register to vote. I still see pretty well so I could have the machine lowered down so I could get closer. This year we got "touch screen" voting which allows inlarging the font or I think there may also be audible prompts.

Also the voting place has to be accessible and ride sharing companies or public interest groups offer free rides if you need them.
Envrin 1 points 3y ago
Here in Canada they do have a "helper agreement" that both you and someone you know sign, and they are allowed in the bootth with you to help you vote.
brainotomy 1 points 3y ago
Here we are required to allow for someone to bring a person in to help them fill out the ballot.
DaaxD 1 points 3y ago
In Finland, disabled people can use a help of an assistant of their own choosing or an election official at the polling place. Candidate or candidate's family member cannot be an assistant.

I did little digging on ch.ch and found this: https://www.ch.ch/en/demokratie/votes/voting-assistance-for-the-elderly-the-ill-and-the-disabled
Basically they say that practices my vary in different cantons and you should look your own canton's website for more information.

Or maybe you should contact SNAB and ask them. https://www.snab.ch/footer/service/kontakte/
BlueRock956 1 points 3y ago
This is for your region
Are special measures put in place to ensure that polling stations are accessible to VI people?
Persons with disabilities (or diseases) in an institutional context have the possibility that the polling box comes to them. There exist personal assistants or representatives, who can go to the polling stations instead of the person with a disability.
Also possible is the written voting by post mail before the official voting weekend. In future electronic voting will be a different option. First tests of e-voting are current.
Within polling stations, what measures are taken to ensure that VI people can exercise their rights in an autonomous and confidential manner?
People with visual impairments or people, who for some other reason are unable to complete their ballot papers on their own, can be assisted by a representative. This representative can either be nominated by the person themselves or be made available at the polling station in the commune.
KE5TR4L 1 points 3y ago
I live in Oregon in the northwest of the US, I take my ballot into the local social security office and a nice person who is legally allowed to read things for me does pretty much exactly what your wife does for you. Theoretically I could let my family or friends do this but honestly I feel better asking someone who’s job it is to handle sensitive things like legal paperwork and voting to help me, especially because they are usually much better at explaining the issues.
KingWithoutClothes [OP] 1 points 3y ago
This sounds really nice. It's cool they offer you this service.
codeplaysleep 1 points 3y ago
Where I live, I can have a person of my choice (so anyone I bring along or ask the organizers to provide someone impartial) to help me vote. Alternately, I could ask for a mail-in ballot and vote from home, using whatever assistance I need, e.g. another person, a magnifier, a CCTV, etc.

I would call whatever government atency is in charge of coordinating the voting and ask them about it. You can't be the only blind person in Switzerland that's voting - there's bound to be accommodations for this.
vwlsmssng 1 points 3y ago
United Kingdom

https://www.rnib.org.uk/information-everyday-living-your-rights/voting-and-elections
Duriello 1 points 3y ago
Here in Portugal we can use stencil envelopes embossed with Braille.
KingWithoutClothes [OP] 1 points 3y ago
I think this may actually exist in Switzerland too... the problem is I don't know how to read Braille. My vision used to be better and I'm slowly but surely losing it. So I wonder if there are any options for people who can't deal with braille...
Prefect316 1 points 3y ago
Really? That is so neat!
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