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WHY ONLY THE BLIND UNDERSTAND TRUE LOVE (artsandopinion.com)
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razzretina 5 points 3y ago
Just looking at the title, I have nothing nice to say about this article. Another sighted person talking over us like we're more/less than any other normal human being.
CloudyBeep 4 points 3y ago
It's unfortunate that this sighted philosopher believes that he has the authority to speak about the experiences of blind people. It is even more unfortunate that this essay is based entirely on a theoretical understanding of love with no actual examples of blind people who have fallen in love. I personally find the argument that a blind person does not have a sexuality completely absurd.
artsandopinion [OP] -2 points 3y ago
There is nothing in the article that suggests that the blind do not have a sexuality. You must be using Google Braile Translator. The article is about love and attraction, and the onus falls on you to explain to the 'sighted' that if, for example, a blind hetero male cannot visualize the female form, what is it then that attracts him to her, prior to physical contact.
preiman790 3 points 3y ago
No, the onus is on the pseudo-philosopher to understand what he’s talking about. People are telling you that you do not understand, they are expressing the point that you were speaking about an experience you do not have. Instead of taking that in and processing it, possibly addapting the thoughts you have based on real world experiences, you instead get defensive. This is a habit that looking through your comment history seems to be your default. You seem to be unwilling to except the views of others, of looking beyond your own limited understanding of the world around you, and if you cannot do that you fail as a philosopher, since one can argue that that is the only point of philosophy, to broaden understanding.
impablomations 2 points 3y ago
> You must be using Google Braile Translator.

Please keep conversation respectful. This is a friendly sub and we like to keep it that way.
artsandopinion [OP] 0 points 3y ago
Mea culpa. My apologies.
bradley22 3 points 3y ago
This article is bad.
Fange_Strellow 3 points 3y ago
You were title isn’t very accurate of what this essay was trying to say, although I can forgive you for thinking so because this whole thing read like a B Grade intro to philosophy college paper The author wasn’t talking about any actual blind human being. Critiquing this really isn’t worth the mental effort that it would take, but this thing just rubbed me the wrong way so much I had to at least say I didn’t like it
oncenightvaler 2 points 3y ago
Blind man here.

While my very first crush was on a voice (I vividly remember this one girl coming and singing and playing guitar for the crowd of around 500 of us with her father, and then figuring out that her and her family lived in my home town and then doing nothing about it because I was too shy and she was two years older than I)

I still think that there's a lot more to the visually impaired and blind boy's experience of love than just voice and scent.

While feeling someone's face is an absolute myth, the blind man through locker room chats with his friends and through research can still have a good idea of what physical aspects appeal to him (e.g. I have not touched many breasts but I have a strong feeling that I would prefer larger ones to smaller ones)

I do look for sense of humour and hobbies in common and warmth of personality before I chase after physical attributes but they are something that is present on everyone's mind.
bradley22 2 points 3y ago
This author has never spoken to a blind person in their life, have they?

This article made me feel wrong. I wanted to think it’s satire but it’s not.

I’d recommend the author speaks to a blind person and takes it down and rewrites it if they wish to with a better understanding.
preiman790 1 points 3y ago
Well that’s the most asinine thing I’ve read all day, and yet somehow, not the most asinine thing this guy has ever written.. browsing down the list of other things he’s written is a clear defense of and justification for rape, so yeah, just an all-around great guy.
I should clarify, it is clear that the author does not understand love and has never met a blind person, and yet that isn’t the thing that offends me so much. While the author wishes to examine love through a philosophical lens, it is abundantly clear that he has failed to examine it through literally any other. The philosophical vomit that passes for thought, completely fails to understand the nature of sexuality and sexual attraction, to the extent that one has to wonder if they’ve ever picked up a biology book of any kind. The author opines that philosophy in the modern age is on it’s deathbed, but if this is an example of philosophy in the modern age, then perhaps we should look into euthanasia. Philosophy at its best involves people asking questions in an attempt to understand the nature of existence, and to try and understand why people do what they do, but in this case all the author is doing is wallowing in their own preconceptions, in an attempt to justify their beliefs and pass it off as philosophical thought, when it rises to the level of neither philosophy nor thought.
artsandopinion [OP] 0 points 3y ago
You write very well, but it's altogether another matter to read and think well. The article on rape was not a defense of nor justification: it was an explanation. To suggest that I'm pro-rape is an example of confirmation bias, "a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." You have shown yourself to be willfully blind and that is a choice, the consequences of which you'll have to live with.
preiman790 1 points 3y ago
If it wasn’t a defense then you failed in expressing your intent. That is not a failure of the reader that is a failure of the writer, I am not the only person to have commented on it who felt the same. I Note you aren’t commenting on any of my other points, I choose to believe it’s because you know I’m right but that your ego is too fragile to acknowledge it.
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